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Art/Literary - Archaeology | | French term or phrase: crânes ôtés et surmodelés | Les crânes ôtés et surmodelés, les cellules à crânes, montrent la place que tenaient ces pratiques au cours du Néolithique.
About removal of skulls as trophies in prehistoric times. |
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| | severed/plastered skull cults | Explanation:
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/394270
From my web searches, several civilisations have been ardent supporters of various forms of head cults. No part of the world seems to have been spared! The Celtic severed head cult, and the Neolithic plastered skull cult are just two examples.
The second term which I have found tricky here is the “cellules à crânes” which I suppose are small holes into which the worshiped heads were placed, a bit like mini catacombs. I’ve tried hard to find something for that one but have not yet found anything I was satisfied with.
Thought you might like the first bit in the meantime, to help you get on. Anyway I’ll keep working on it… two heads are better than one !!!
A - “Crane surmodelé” from the “culte du crane”.
B - “cellules à cranes”
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A - “Plastered human skull”, “cult of the plastered skull”
1 - http://www.mindorg.com/ant_sys/Sys05.htm
Têtes collectionnées par les "chasseurs de têtes" néolithiques (dans la plupart des sociétés néolithiques, on peut trouver des traces de "culte du crâne"),
2 - fraternitelibertaire.free.fr/reserve/ la_naissance_des_dieux%20.doc
De 9.500 à 7.000 avant JC, toute une série de plantes et d’animaux sont rapidement domestiqués. En architecture, les habitations sortent de sous terre pour s’établir en surface et sont orientées rituellement. Les gens y enterrent leurs morts sous le sol et un " culte du crâne " se développe dans lequel les crânes humains sont détachés des corps et recouverts d’argile modelée pour ressembler aux ancêtres héroïques ou aux divinités humaines.
3 - http://www.unc.edu/courses/clar047/sg1Neol.html
For a photo of a plastered human skull from Jericho, Pre-Pottery Neolithic B, 8500-7000.
Also :
www.ku.edu/~hoopes/110-h3.htm : “plastered skull cult”
lpc1.clpccd.cc.ca.us/lpc/paskewitz/main/Study1Art4.htm
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Suggested (partial) rendering :
\"Les crânes ôtés et surmodelés, les cellules à crânes, montrent la place que tenaient ces pratiques au cours du Néolithique.\"
\"The severed plastered skulls and the \"cellules à crânes\" bear witness to the importance attached to these practices throughout the Neolithic period.\"
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In reply to William\'s answer to my comment. He has a point, except that all of the Neolithic references I found referred to \"plastered skull\"...
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Note added at 2003-03-21 21:40:41 (GMT)
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In reply to William\'s answer to my comment. He has a point, except that all of the Neolithic references I found referred to \"plastered skull\" in describing skulls which had been covered with clay...
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Note added at 2003-03-21 21:44:20 (GMT)
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Further, the very intersting reference used in William\'s answer realtes to skull masks, not to the skulls themselves. There\'s a brilliant picture of a plastered Pre-historic Neolithic skull here : http://www.unc.edu/courses/clar047/sg1Neol.html
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B - \"cellules à crânes\"
Just wondering in \"small skull chamber\" or similar might not do the trick. Nothing found to confirm this apart from descriptions of smaller sections of burial chambers used just for the skulls, with stones placed around them along wiht other precious items.
(Time for dinner, be back later!)
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Yes, yes yes for \"skull niches\". So...
\"The severed plastered skulls and skull niches bear witness to the importance attached to these practices throughout the Neolithic period.\"
Team work guys!
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Melanie.
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1 hr confidence:   The severed and reshaped skulls together with the special skull logdings evidence such practices dur
Explanation:
The severed and reshaped skulls together with the special skull logdings evidence such practices during the Neolithic period
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3 hrs confidence: peer agreement (net): +3 severed/plastered skull cults
Explanation:
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/394270
From my web searches, several civilisations have been ardent supporters of various forms of head cults. No part of the world seems to have been spared! The Celtic severed head cult, and the Neolithic plastered skull cult are just two examples.
The second term which I have found tricky here is the “cellules à crânes” which I suppose are small holes into which the worshiped heads were placed, a bit like mini catacombs. I’ve tried hard to find something for that one but have not yet found anything I was satisfied with.
Thought you might like the first bit in the meantime, to help you get on. Anyway I’ll keep working on it… two heads are better than one !!!
A - “Crane surmodelé” from the “culte du crane”.
B - “cellules à cranes”
________________________________________
A - “Plastered human skull”, “cult of the plastered skull”
1 - http://www.mindorg.com/ant_sys/Sys05.htm
Têtes collectionnées par les "chasseurs de têtes" néolithiques (dans la plupart des sociétés néolithiques, on peut trouver des traces de "culte du crâne"),
2 - fraternitelibertaire.free.fr/reserve/ la_naissance_des_dieux%20.doc
De 9.500 à 7.000 avant JC, toute une série de plantes et d’animaux sont rapidement domestiqués. En architecture, les habitations sortent de sous terre pour s’établir en surface et sont orientées rituellement. Les gens y enterrent leurs morts sous le sol et un " culte du crâne " se développe dans lequel les crânes humains sont détachés des corps et recouverts d’argile modelée pour ressembler aux ancêtres héroïques ou aux divinités humaines.
3 - http://www.unc.edu/courses/clar047/sg1Neol.html
For a photo of a plastered human skull from Jericho, Pre-Pottery Neolithic B, 8500-7000.
Also :
www.ku.edu/~hoopes/110-h3.htm : “plastered skull cult”
lpc1.clpccd.cc.ca.us/lpc/paskewitz/main/Study1Art4.htm
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Note added at 2003-03-21 21:20:48 (GMT)
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Suggested (partial) rendering :
\"Les crânes ôtés et surmodelés, les cellules à crânes, montrent la place que tenaient ces pratiques au cours du Néolithique.\"
\"The severed plastered skulls and the \"cellules à crânes\" bear witness to the importance attached to these practices throughout the Neolithic period.\"
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Note added at 2003-03-21 21:40:08 (GMT)
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In reply to William\'s answer to my comment. He has a point, except that all of the Neolithic references I found referred to \"plastered skull\"...
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Note added at 2003-03-21 21:40:41 (GMT)
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In reply to William\'s answer to my comment. He has a point, except that all of the Neolithic references I found referred to \"plastered skull\" in describing skulls which had been covered with clay...
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 2003-03-21 21:44:20 (GMT)
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Further, the very intersting reference used in William\'s answer realtes to skull masks, not to the skulls themselves. There\'s a brilliant picture of a plastered Pre-historic Neolithic skull here : http://www.unc.edu/courses/clar047/sg1Neol.html
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Note added at 2003-03-21 21:49:46 (GMT)
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B - \"cellules à crânes\"
Just wondering in \"small skull chamber\" or similar might not do the trick. Nothing found to confirm this apart from descriptions of smaller sections of burial chambers used just for the skulls, with stones placed around them along wiht other precious items.
(Time for dinner, be back later!)
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Note added at 2003-03-22 08:57:12 (GMT)
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Yes, yes yes for \"skull niches\". So...
\"The severed plastered skulls and skull niches bear witness to the importance attached to these practices throughout the Neolithic period.\"
Team work guys!
fraternitelibertaire.free.fr/reserve/ la_naissance_des_dieux%20.doc
Reference: http://www.unc.edu/courses/clar047/sg1Neol.html
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Melanie. |
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