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French: antéglise

English translation: antechurch



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French term or phrase:antéglise
English translation:antechurch
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Architecture / History Book About Charlemagne
French term or phrase: antéglise
Contexte:

"Par ces escaliers en colimaçon on accédait aussi à un solium extractum, espèce **d'antéglise** sur laquelle montaient les évêques et l'empereur pour être acclamé par le peuple."

It's a description of a cathedral.

Merci Beaucoup!

femme
femme
United States
Clarification request(s) and response
Cervin: 9:46am Jan 20, 2008: There's a picture here: http://www.peat.me.uk/photos/album/cluny-abbey-and-town/phot...
and this might help: http://thesaurus.english-heritage.org.uk/thesaurus_term.asp?...
ANTECHURCH
UF Forechurch
SN An addition to the west end of a church which is similar to a porch or narthex but usually consists of a nave and aisles.
CL BUILDING COMPONENT

NT NARTHEX (MEDIEVAL)



antechurch
Explanation:
Compare the English and French texts here:
http://whc.unesco.org/archive/advisory_body_evaluation/974.p...

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Note added at 8 mins (2008-01-20 00:21:07 GMT)
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Abbot Heito III (888-913) replaced the antechurch with a square choir and a broad western transept flanked by two towers.

L’abbé Heito III (888-913) remplace l’antéglise par un chœur carré et un large transept occidental flanqué de deux tours.
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mediamatrix
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5 +7antechurchmediamatrix
3Westwerk
Christopher Crockett
5 -2anti-church
Chris Hall


  

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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +7
antechurch

Explanation:
Compare the English and French texts here:
http://whc.unesco.org/archive/advisory_body_evaluation/974.p...

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Note added at 8 mins (2008-01-20 00:21:07 GMT)
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Abbot Heito III (888-913) replaced the antechurch with a square choir and a broad western transept flanked by two towers.

L’abbé Heito III (888-913) remplace l’antéglise par un chœur carré et un large transept occidental flanqué de deux tours.

mediamatrix
Chile
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree jlrsnyder
48 mins

agree Bourth: Aka forechurch or narthex, apparently.
50 mins

agree Mary Carroll Richer LaFlèche
7 hrs

agree Bashiqa
8 hrs

agree Victoria Burns:
9 hrs

agree Cervin: See picture and notes above
9 hrs

agree Jonathan MacKerron: Webster suggests "portico"
12 hrs
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -2
anti-church

Explanation:
I know for a fact that antéchrist is Antichrist, so surely it makes that antéglise means anti (anté) church (église)... Sometimes it helps to break the words up.

Chris Hall
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree Bourth: The French "antéchrist" is an odd exception; it should really be "antichrist". "Anté" means "before", "in front of", of course, as in "antechamber" or "upping the ante" (which you do BEFORE you play your cards).
51 mins

disagree Richard Benham: "ante" is Latin for "before"; the "anti" in "Antichrist" is Greek for "agaisnt". The Old English word for "Antichrist" was "antecrist". I suspect the "e" in F and OE is a confusion due to the idea that the Antichrist will reign BEFORE the Second Coming.
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2 days19 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Westwerk

Explanation:
I don't like "antechurch" because the OED doesn't.

The only thing it has for "antechurch" is "see antechapel," where we find

ANTE- + CHAPEL.

‘A term used in the Universities for the outer part at the west end of a chapel.’ Parker Gloss. Arch. 1875.

Which is *clearly* not what we have here.

Lacking any sort of visual aid, I'd say that there's a possibility that we're dealing with a "Westwerk," an architectural feature which I explained in another one of your open questions.

The "solium extractum...sur laquelle montaient les évêques et l'empereur pour être acclamé par le peuple" might confirm this notion, since Westwerks were, apparently, originally designed for this purpose (or so it is thought).

Christopher Crockett
United States
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 43
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