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French term or phrase:	(un pignon) partie aveugle
English translation:	blind gable
Entered by:	B D Finch

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2:24pm Apr 12, 2008

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Tech/Engineering - Architecture

French term or phrase: partie aveugle

From the leaflet of an architects' agency. I'm not sure
whether "partie aveugle" can be translated with "blind part", and would be grateful for help and comments.

"Les modifications sont légères hormis le traitement du pignon ouest qui était une partie aveugle très imposante et qui a été complètement retravaillé dans l'esprit de « donner à lire la coupe du bâtiment ». "

ahab

KudoZ activity
Questions: 48 (1 open)
Answers: 0

Germany

blind gable

Explanation:
As this is a pignon, I think that it is safe to refer back to that and consider "partie" redundant.

I've never seen reference to a "blind part" of a building, one generally specifies what it is that is "blind". Docobat has "blind gable" as "pignon aveugle".

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Note added at 1 day18 hrs (2008-04-14 08:26:52 GMT)
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In answer to fourth's question:

"The alterations are minor, except for the treatment of the west gable, which is a very imposing blind gable and which was completely reworked ..."

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Note added at 1 day23 hrs (2008-04-14 14:02:46 GMT)
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Omit "which is" and "and" in above sentence:
""The alterations are minor, except for the treatment of the west gable, a very imposing blind gable which was completely reworked ..."

Selected response from:

B D Finch
France

Note from asker to answerer

The most convincing answer, thanks a lot, you've been of great help!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +4

blank wall

Bourth

5 +3

blind gable

B D Finch

dark area

raj_gup

windowless gable

CherryPie

dark part

zi_neb

blind spot

Katarina Peters

Answers

13 mins confidence:

blind spot

Explanation:
as in: what you don't see in your rear-view mirror...

Katarina Peters
Canada
Native speaker of:

Hungarian,

English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

liz askew: frustratingly, my refs re "blind spot" did not come through. I must have pressed the wrong button/or did't press the button as the case may be :-)

4 mins

-> Thanks, Liz. Most of the time I look for references after posting my answer. Here's one: www.whitepapers.zdnet.co.uk/0,1000000651,260256776p-3900045... - 90k -//However, we may both be wrong in this case...see answer by Zi_neb

disagree

B D Finch: That is not what it means. Zi-neb's explanation is correct, but she didn't give the right translation.

46 mins

neutral

Michael Tovbin: with B D Finch: blind spot is an area that is physically beyond a person's field of view or a situation when a person refuses to see another's character flaws.

53 mins

-> "Beyond a person's field of view" is what I had in mind, but I concede I was wrong in this architectural context.

27 mins confidence:

dark part

Explanation:
partie aveugle càd sans aucune ouverture qui laisse passer la lumière. On dit d'une pièce obscure, sans fenêtre "une pièce aveugle"

Good luck,

zi_neb
Belgium
Native speaker of:

Arabic

1 hr confidence:

windowless gable

Explanation:
Agree with BDF on specifying "gable," and while "blind gable" is indeed correct, "windowless" seems to be used just as frequently and may more clearly convey the meaning.

Just another idea to choose from!

Example sentence(s):

Windowless gable-end walls can be covered with a mural or with self-clinging plants.
Blank, windowless gable ends and large areas of blank walls should generally be avoided as these create spaces that are both unattractive and lack natural light.

CherryPie
France
Native speaker of:

English

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

blank wall

Explanation:
"A wall with not openings for doors or windows"
[Scott/Penguin Dict of Bldg]
Also given as "blind wall", with ref. back to "blank wall"

The Dict. of Architecture and Construction by Cyril M Harris [McGHill] does the same, with "blind wall" referring to "blank wall" with the definition:

blank wall, blind wall, dead wall - A wall whose whole surface is unbroken by a window, door, or other opening.

Bourth
France
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 334

1 day14 hrs confidence:

dark area

Explanation:
The expression is 'dark area(s)'.

raj_gup
United States
Native speaker of:

English

57 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

blind gable

Explanation:
As this is a pignon, I think that it is safe to refer back to that and consider "partie" redundant.

I've never seen reference to a "blind part" of a building, one generally specifies what it is that is "blind". Docobat has "blind gable" as "pignon aveugle".

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Note added at 1 day18 hrs (2008-04-14 08:26:52 GMT)
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In answer to fourth's question:

"The alterations are minor, except for the treatment of the west gable, which is a very imposing blind gable and which was completely reworked ..."

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Note added at 1 day23 hrs (2008-04-14 14:02:46 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Omit "which is" and "and" in above sentence:
""The alterations are minor, except for the treatment of the west gable, a very imposing blind gable which was completely reworked ..."

B D Finch
France
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 24

Note from asker to answerer

The most convincing answer, thanks a lot, you've been of great help!

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French: partie aveugle

English translation: blind gable