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English translation: carbonized



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French term or phrase:carbonisé
English translation:carbonized
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Art/Literary - Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
French term or phrase: carbonisé
La phrase décrit une scène:
Sous la forme d'un arbre carbonisé, en feu et courbé par la tempête
ce qui me tracasse c'est carbonisé suivi de en feu
Merci
zkt
Lebanon
burnt /burnt-out / smoldering remains of a tree
Explanation:
guess

the image that came to my mind was that the tree was largely reduced to embers or a burnt-out shape, but there were still some flames from the fire -- and there was a tempest???

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Note added at 33 mins (2007-07-20 11:49:31 GMT)
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forli - For some reason, I just didn't think of lightning! I kept picturing a fire consuming a tree, then a tempest arriving, bending the remains even further,

then a flood, then an earthquake... OK, je plaisante... :-)

but up to the storm arriving, that's what I was picturing, not impossible, but still, odd: the mixture of big flames and extra-strength storm all at the same time...

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Note added at 36 mins (2007-07-20 11:52:24 GMT)
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* carbonized

I like "carbonized remains"

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Note added at 2 hrs (2007-07-20 14:02:18 GMT)
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Vaughn : "IF it's "curved" then it is still supple - this isn't after, this is IN a storm."

From the time the tree is green and living to when it becomes a hardened coal, it goes through many transformations, and the fire will not burn all of it at once, nor will it burn the entire tree with the same intensity. So no, it doesn't simply solidify into a hard non-bending coal in 3 seconds, in an Either/Or condition, and the tree remains supple in many ways for quite some time, while still being quite burnt and smoldered in others.

carbonisé seems quite strong to mean just a mere change in color.
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vera-tech
France
Note from asker to answerer
Merci Vera :-)
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +3scorched
Katarina Peters
3 +3blackenedVaughn
4 +2charred (remains of...)
Tony M
1 +2burnt /burnt-out / smoldering remains of a tree
vera-tech


  


Answers

21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
scorched

Explanation:
:)

Katarina Peters
Canada
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in HungarianHungarian, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral Tony M: Not so sure this fits well for a tree; scorched tablecloth, scorched earth — yes! But 'scorched tree'? // Generally means 'discoloured by heat' rather than 'blackened by direct fire'
40 mins
  -> Thanks Tony, but I don't see why not...

agree Vaughn: "scorch" "burn the surface with flame" - I think it's great
55 mins
  -> Thanks Vaughn!

agree jean-jacques alexandre: absolutely
2 hrs
  -> Thanks, Jean-Jacques!

agree mary kyriakopoulou
5 hrs
  -> Thanks, Mary!
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
charred (remains of...)

Explanation:
Just another alternative, often used in similar contexts. I think adding 'remains of...' helps the flow of the sentence in the first occurrence.

Tony M
France
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 40

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree Can Altinbay
1 hr
  -> Thanks, Can!

neutral jean-jacques alexandre: it's good too, agh decision, decision !!! have a great week-end, I'll try to stay away for a whole one
6 hrs
  -> Merci, J-J !

agree La Classe
7 days
  -> Thanks, Manohar!
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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5 peer agreement (net): +2
burnt /burnt-out / smoldering remains of a tree

Explanation:
guess

the image that came to my mind was that the tree was largely reduced to embers or a burnt-out shape, but there were still some flames from the fire -- and there was a tempest???

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Note added at 33 mins (2007-07-20 11:49:31 GMT)
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forli - For some reason, I just didn't think of lightning! I kept picturing a fire consuming a tree, then a tempest arriving, bending the remains even further,

then a flood, then an earthquake... OK, je plaisante... :-)

but up to the storm arriving, that's what I was picturing, not impossible, but still, odd: the mixture of big flames and extra-strength storm all at the same time...

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Note added at 36 mins (2007-07-20 11:52:24 GMT)
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* carbonized

I like "carbonized remains"

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Note added at 2 hrs (2007-07-20 14:02:18 GMT)
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Vaughn : "IF it's "curved" then it is still supple - this isn't after, this is IN a storm."

From the time the tree is green and living to when it becomes a hardened coal, it goes through many transformations, and the fire will not burn all of it at once, nor will it burn the entire tree with the same intensity. So no, it doesn't simply solidify into a hard non-bending coal in 3 seconds, in an Either/Or condition, and the tree remains supple in many ways for quite some time, while still being quite burnt and smoldered in others.

carbonisé seems quite strong to mean just a mere change in color.

vera-tech
France
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 11
Note from asker to answerer
Merci Vera :-)

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree forli: struck by lightning? in such cases "carbonized" is often used.
10 mins
  -> Oui!! that makes perfect sense - that's exactly the scenario where this would happen!

agree Tony M
47 mins
  -> Thank you.

neutral Vaughn: "remains" curved by the wind? Doesn't work for me. IF it's "curved" then it is still supple - this isn't after, this is IN a storm.
48 mins
  -> I know what you mean, but I think you took the remains to the extreme - see http://homepages.tig.com.au/~parsog/fire/index.html pic "Burning trunk" - then it's further deformed by rain - it works
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
blackened

Explanation:
blackened flaming form of a tree, bent by the storm

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Note added at 3 hrs (2007-07-20 14:19:03 GMT)
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Vera-Tech says "carbonisé seems quite strong to mean just a mere change in color." I would agree, except it is true that "carbonisé" is indeed used as a colorful way of saying black in French. The word is less used in English, even if a carbonized steak does exist (and is quite tasty for those unafraid of cancer ;-))

Vaughn
France
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 154

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral vera-tech: // I added a note to your questioning of "remains" which in turn made me think that blackened is not right.
9 mins

agree Ben Gaia: Yes. "Carbonised" is not good English at all.
7 hrs

agree bluebird5: Charred and scorched indicate different degrees and since we don't know I think this is the best choice.
7 hrs

agree suezen
19 hrs
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