hors de l'univers commun

English translation: outside the common realm of humanity

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French term or phrase:hors de l'univers commun des humains
English translation:outside the common realm of humanity
Entered by: Victoria Barkoff

08:08 Mar 3, 2002
French to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary
French term or phrase: hors de l'univers commun
Sa difference irreductible le place aileurs,hors de l'univers commun des humains.

From a piece by Daniel Borrillo on Homophobia
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outside the common realm [of humanity]
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Victoria Barkoff
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1out of the common world
Pierre POUSSIN
3 +2outside the common realm [of humanity]
Victoria Barkoff
4 +1beyond the common human conception of the universe
CLS Lexi-tech
5outside the common human universe
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
4beyond the universe as [man / human beings] understand(s) it
Steven Geller


  

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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
out of the common world


Explanation:
Just a way of saying it!

Pierre POUSSIN
France
Local time: 12:35
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in pair: 400

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Alexandra Hague: why not even common human world or common world of human beings...
6 mins
  -> True! Could be... Thank you!

agree  florawatson (X): but instead of out ,why not" far from "the common world of human beings
1 hr
  -> Just to add to the "break"! Thank you!

disagree  Steven Geller: hors de l'universe commun = beyond our universe / monde = world
2 hrs
  -> Your right!
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beyond the universe as [man / human beings] understand(s) it


Explanation:

Its inveterate difference places it elsewhere, beyond the universe as [man / human beings] understand(s) it.

Steven Geller
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outside the common realm [of humanity]


Explanation:
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Victoria Barkoff
Local time: 07:35
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in pair: 119
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agree  French_Engl
11 hrs

agree  Abu Amaal (X): i.e. common in the sense of shared, jointly inhabited
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
beyond the common human conception of the universe


Explanation:
I have translated several deconstructionist essays and I found that the deconstructionist English you read is often very "non native", very "non idiomatic" for lack of better words. Considering that language is the primary mean of expressing difference, a certain moving away from idiomatic usage is not only tolerated, but valued, as a way to express meanings that have found no place, so far, in the language.

bonne chance Peter

paola l m


CLS Lexi-tech
Local time: 07:35
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in pair: 162

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agree  Sheila Hardie
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outside the common human universe


Explanation:
it's OK to adjectivize these nouns in these texts

Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in pair: 8576
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