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angle d'appui

English translation: angle of incidence


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French term or phrase:angle d'appui
English translation:angle of incidence
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French term or phrase: angle d'appui
Tout cela bien sûr participe clairement aux économies de carburant, mais aussi au niveau du comportement général de l’auto avec notamment la présence d’un aileron actif qui se déploie dès 90 km/h. Actif et intelligent, puisqu’il augmente son angle d’appui à partir de 160 km/h et l’optimise jusqu’à 14° au-dessus de 205 km/h.
chrisnkls
France
Local time: 17:24
grip angle
Explanation:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&as_q=car angle of grip&...

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Hi

I think it could be "angle of incidence"

Review Porsche 911 GT3 New car
21 May 2007 ... The rear spoiler continues to be a dual-planed item that has also become ... The upper wing element has an adjustable angle of incidence, while the lower plane .... Ssangyong (14), Subaru (52), Suzuki (48), Toyota (221) ...
www.buyacar.co.uk/.../porsche/review_porsche_911_gt3_1285.j... - Cached - Similar

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http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:XvwtpqRDjrUJ:www.auto12...


Autre point fort et grande innovation est l'aileron actif à quatre positions de la Panamera Turbo. En réglant les angles et la géométrie de la surface selon les conditions de conduite, l'aileron optimise les performances et la qualité aérodynamique de la voiture.


One further visible highlight of the overall aerodynamic package and another
innovation is the active four-way rear spoiler on the Panamera Turbo. Through
its efficient management of control angles and surface geometry geared to
driving conditions, the rear spoiler optimizes both the car's aerodynamics and
performance.



325i vs 3000gt - Bimmerforums - The Ultimate BMW Forum
9 posts - 8 authors - Last post: 1 Oct
The second is the rear spoiler which increases its attack angle by 14 degrees then returns to horizontal as the car slows. ...
forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p... - Cached - Similar



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http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:Uj27-J1yj24J:www.autobl...


The primary plastic body component is the rear wing, which rises up at speed. It lifts up at 55 mph and tilts to an angle of incidence of -3 degrees. That's enough to trim out the air flow and keep drag to a minimum. As speeds rise above 127 mph, the wing tilts up to a positive 10 degree angle to generate some downforce. Normally aspirated models get a single piece wing while the turbo gets a multi-piece unit. As the turbo wing rises, the upper surface lifts higher, splitting in the middle and extending outward for even more surface area.

Porsche didn't want the Panamera to generate huge amounts of downforce, since that would also increase drag, which they were trying to avoid. However, the turbo generates about 15 pounds of downforce at 155 mph, making it essentially neutral. The normally aspirated cars have a drag coefficient of 0.29, while the turbos come out the wind tunnel at 0.30.


Good luck in your quest!
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liz askew
United Kingdom
Local time: 16:24
Grading comment
thanks for your help and the useful links!
2 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +5angle of incidence
chris collister
4 +1support angle
Chris Hall
1grip angleliz askew


  

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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
support angle


Explanation:
Source:

http://portailgroupe.afnor.fr/v3/espace_information/listes_t...

Chris Hall
United Kingdom
Local time: 16:24
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  gsloane: That's what my first instinctive thought. You're welcome.
16 mins
  -> Many thanks for your feedback gsloane - much appreciated. Kind regards, Chris.
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12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +5
angle of incidence


Explanation:
Since this is a discussion of aerodynamics, it's only really the airflow which matters. Generally wings (or spoilers in this case) stall (ie lose lift) at about 12°, but high lift devices (as in F1 cars) stall at much higher angles. "Angle of attack" is also common in aeronautics. Strictly speaking, it's not really "lift" but "downforce": it's just that the aerofoil is inverted.

chris collister
France
Local time: 17:24
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 158
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks for your explanations Chris, you're right, the readership is not supposed to be specialized in sportscars!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Terry Richards: Either one but I prefer angle of attack. May be a US/UK thing.
1 hr
  -> Yes, but "incidence" is a bit more general. I'm guessing the readership is not that specialis(z)ed

agree  Loperhet
1 hr

neutral  liz askew: Nice to know I was on track.
1 hr

agree  Travelin Ann
1 hr

agree  Bourth: The French has telescoped the angle of incidence and the downthrust it procures.
2 hrs

agree  pallavik: It's got to be this one... For sure...
1 day4 hrs
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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5
grip angle


Explanation:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&as_q=car angle of grip&...

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Note added at 21 mins (2009-10-09 16:30:03 GMT)
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Hi

I think it could be "angle of incidence"

Review Porsche 911 GT3 New car
21 May 2007 ... The rear spoiler continues to be a dual-planed item that has also become ... The upper wing element has an adjustable angle of incidence, while the lower plane .... Ssangyong (14), Subaru (52), Suzuki (48), Toyota (221) ...
www.buyacar.co.uk/.../porsche/review_porsche_911_gt3_1285.j... - Cached - Similar

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Note added at 21 mins (2009-10-09 16:30:18 GMT)
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http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:XvwtpqRDjrUJ:www.auto12...


Autre point fort et grande innovation est l'aileron actif à quatre positions de la Panamera Turbo. En réglant les angles et la géométrie de la surface selon les conditions de conduite, l'aileron optimise les performances et la qualité aérodynamique de la voiture.


One further visible highlight of the overall aerodynamic package and another
innovation is the active four-way rear spoiler on the Panamera Turbo. Through
its efficient management of control angles and surface geometry geared to
driving conditions, the rear spoiler optimizes both the car's aerodynamics and
performance.



325i vs 3000gt - Bimmerforums - The Ultimate BMW Forum
9 posts - 8 authors - Last post: 1 Oct
The second is the rear spoiler which increases its attack angle by 14 degrees then returns to horizontal as the car slows. ...
forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p... - Cached - Similar



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Note added at 27 mins (2009-10-09 16:36:45 GMT)
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http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:Uj27-J1yj24J:www.autobl...


The primary plastic body component is the rear wing, which rises up at speed. It lifts up at 55 mph and tilts to an angle of incidence of -3 degrees. That's enough to trim out the air flow and keep drag to a minimum. As speeds rise above 127 mph, the wing tilts up to a positive 10 degree angle to generate some downforce. Normally aspirated models get a single piece wing while the turbo gets a multi-piece unit. As the turbo wing rises, the upper surface lifts higher, splitting in the middle and extending outward for even more surface area.

Porsche didn't want the Panamera to generate huge amounts of downforce, since that would also increase drag, which they were trying to avoid. However, the turbo generates about 15 pounds of downforce at 155 mph, making it essentially neutral. The normally aspirated cars have a drag coefficient of 0.29, while the turbos come out the wind tunnel at 0.30.


Good luck in your quest!

liz askew
United Kingdom
Local time: 16:24
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 18
Grading comment
thanks for your help and the useful links!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi Liz, many many thanks for your clear explanations and especially for the linked article on autoblog , which is quite helpful and has enabled me to correct a few mistakes I had made.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  chris collister: Angle of incidence? Who'd have thought it!
5 days
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