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French term or phrase:	massif
English translation:	in a cluster
Entered by:	Brigitte Albert

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17:04 Mar 30, 2006

French to English translations [PRO]
Botany / Flowers

French term or phrase: massif

Le cyclamen XYZ est destiné généralement à l’utilisation en intérieur comme sujet de décoration. Dans ce cas, cette plante est plus durablement belle dans un endroit clair et non surchauffé, la température ne devant pas dépasser 20°C.
En extérieur le cyclamen en pots, en massifs, en jardinières ou balconnières n’en finit plus d’étonner. Plus la variété est vigoureuse et robuste, plus elle résistera aux intempéries.

En jardinières ou en massifs, utilisez quelques plantes de type XYZ issues de ce mélange et placez parmi elles quelques plantes.

Chappy

in a cluster

Explanation:
I think the idea is to plant several cyclamen plants planted close together in one area, among other plants, to give maximum effect

Selected response from:

Brigitte Albert
Canada
Local time: 00:53

Grading comment

Many thanks, Brigitte.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +4

mixed border

Dr Sue Levy

4 +1

variation: planted in containers or grouped in flower beds

Brigitte Albert

4 +1

in a cluster

Brigitte Albert

4 +1

flower bed

marie-christine périé

for bedding/in beds

Rachel Fell

flowerbed

ntaylor

Answers

3 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

mixed border

Explanation:
extensive gardening experience :-)

Dr Sue Levy
Luxembourg
Local time: 06:53
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Cetacea: You must be waiting for spring - or is the weather better in Luxemburg?

36 mins

-> Luxembourg has the worst weather! And my 16 year old garden is about to be ripped apart by earth-movers. Just as the daffodils are about to bloom :-((((

agree

Philippe Boucry: Technically speaking, you're right, this is the translation. I don't know about you, but it wouldn't occur to me to put cyclamens in a mixed border. Rockeries, paving, etc - but a mixed border? Who wrote that ? ;-)

43 mins

-> they're much prettier in shady spots under trees and shrubs but these modern gardeners have no respect for tradition ;-)

agree

rfmoon

20 hrs

-> thanks :-)

agree

Rachel Fell: are you having a garden "makeover"?? I think I've seen some cyclamen planted/growing in these borders/beds: http://www.parks.ox.ac.uk/\\Oh, I see

2 days1 hr

-> Thanks Rachel. We were renting - have had to move out - owners making extensive renovations

4 mins confidence:

flowerbed

Explanation:
planted together in groups

used as a flowerbed
rosebed, a bed of roses
clump of bushes, when refering to arbustes

ntaylor
United States
Local time: 22:53
Native speaker of:

French

4 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

flower bed

Explanation:
I would say

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and there occurrences of cyclamen bed!

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Note added at 8 mins (2006-03-30 17:12:58 GMT)
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there are

marie-christine périé
France
Local time: 06:53
Native speaker of:

French

29 mins confidence:

for bedding/in beds

Explanation:
by unnoticed:. Poinsettia care; Plant Quality; Cyclamen as bedding plants.
Backfill A guest editorial questioning the sanctity of the "native" concept ...
www.horticulturist.com/mastermag/toc.htm

Amaryllis, colchicum, cyclamen, Guernsey lily and narcissi can be planted in pots or beds for next year. CUTTINGS Cuttings of carnations and picotees should ...
www.ba-education.demon.co.uk/for/gardeningyear/aug.html -

Rachel Fell
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:53
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 24

31 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

in a cluster

Explanation:
I think the idea is to plant several cyclamen plants planted close together in one area, among other plants, to give maximum effect

Reference: http://termium.com./tpv2Show/termiumplus.html?lang=f2&i=1&in...

Brigitte Albert
Canada
Local time: 00:53
Native speaker of:

English,

German
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

Many thanks, Brigitte.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

neutral

Cetacea: Yes, but you might also do that in a big pot, not necessarily in the garden.

10 mins

-> (Brigitte) Yes, you have a good point.

agree

Cervin: But dont you think clusters suggests out in the garden rather than in a pot? e.g.They look pretty around the base of a tree. A pot seems to be self-explanatory because plants are contained in it.

5 hrs

-> This is a bit tricky, for sure! I agree that "clusters" suggests outside plantings...it just sounds right to me...not very scientific I'm afraid, in this case!

neutral

Rachel Fell: cyclamen multiply, and you might plant them in groups (not too closely) but not in clusters

2 days1 hr

-> Thanks Rachel, please see my addtional comment below about "grouped in flowerbeds" :)

11 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

massif (not for points) variation: planted in containers or grouped in flower beds

Explanation:
TRying to solve the puzzle here...what do you all think of this alternative?

Brigitte Albert
Canada
Local time: 00:53
Native speaker of:

English,

German
PRO pts in category: 4

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massif

English translation: in a cluster