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please proofread/edit 3 sentences

English translation: ATM (automatic teller machine) (US) ; cash machine

GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
French term or phrase:DAB (distributeur automatique bancaire), guichet automatique, distributeur...
English translation:ATM (automatic teller machine) (US) ; cash machine
Entered by: Laurel Clausen

00:50 Jun 8, 2002
French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial
French term or phrase: please proofread/edit 3 sentences
Note a l’attention des Constructeurs de Terminaux de Paiements Electronique et d’Automates de Paiement

Note to the attention of the Manufacturers of Electronic Payment Terminals and Automatic Teller Machines

Is there a better way to say electronic payment terminals? A second expression for ATMs?

Objet: Systèmes d’acceptation CB5.2:
Gestion et Sècurite du Code confidentiel

Subject: Systems of acceptance CB5.2: Management and Security of the confidential Code

Suite aux différentes interrogations exprimées par les industriels sur le sujet cité en objet, nous vous prions de bien vouloir prendre connaissance de la note de information, ci-jointe, portant sur:

As a result of various inquiries by factory owners on the theme referred to as the subject, we ask you to agree to take into account the attached note of information relating to:

note of information???? is there a better expression for this?

Please edit 3 sentences - or even just 1 of them. Thanks!
Deb Phillips (X)
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Explanation:

Sentence #1
electronic payment terminals OK
Reference"... parties have undertaken to implement full compliance with the CB5.2 ... to all chip-based electronic payment terminals, or simply to acceptance systems ..."

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Sentence #2
Subject: CB5.2 Acceptance Systems:
Management and Security of the Confidential Code

sentence #3
Your 3rd sentence is rather wordy. Perhaps you could simplify it:

In response to various inquiries on the subject from factory owners, please see the following note relating to:
Selected response from:

Victoria Barkoff
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Summary of answers provided
4 +4Suggested edits
Victoria Barkoff
5 +1see explanation.
Barbara Stephens
4 +1code confidentiel = PIN n° (UK)
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
5memo
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
4Note to the manufacturers....
tinam966
4A few suggestions:
kmaciel
4ATM = Automatic Transaction Machine or Cash Machine
Jack Doughty
5 -1ATM stands for Automated TELLER Machine
Francesco Barbuto


  

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Suggested edits


Explanation:

Sentence #1
electronic payment terminals OK
Reference"... parties have undertaken to implement full compliance with the CB5.2 ... to all chip-based electronic payment terminals, or simply to acceptance systems ..."

www.cartes-bancaires.com/GB/Pages/ interview/Interview1.htm - 12k -


Sentence #2
Subject: CB5.2 Acceptance Systems:
Management and Security of the Confidential Code

sentence #3
Your 3rd sentence is rather wordy. Perhaps you could simplify it:

In response to various inquiries on the subject from factory owners, please see the following note relating to:

Victoria Barkoff
Local time: 05:16
Native speaker of: English
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Thank you!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Paul Mably (X): simple and current
3 hrs

agree  Martine Etienne
5 hrs

agree  Maryse Trevithick
6 hrs

agree  PaulaMac (X): for note, use memo or memorandum
18 hrs
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Note to the manufacturers....


Explanation:
To simplify and make the sentence sound better, omit "to the attention".

tinam966
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A few suggestions:


Explanation:
Note a l’attention des Constructeurs de Terminaux de Paiements Electronique et d’Automates de Paiement = Circular to Manufacturers of Electronic Cash Dispensers and Automatic Teller Machines.

Objet: Systèmes d’acceptation CB5.2: Gestion et Sècurite du Code confidentiel

Suite aux différentes interrogations exprimées par les industriels sur le sujet cité en objet, nous vous prions de bien vouloir prendre connaissance de la note de information, ci-jointe, portant sur:

=

RE: Acceptance Procedures CB5.2: Encryption code management and security

Following various issued raised by industrial operators with regard to the subject matter referred to above, we request you to take note of the attached circular concerning:

Hope that was helpful.

kmaciel
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ATM = Automatic Transaction Machine or Cash Machine


Explanation:
This is what ATM used to be said to mean on my bank statements (Barclays Bank, UK). But nowadays they just call it "Cash Machine".
I stress that this is UK usage. Automatic Teller Machine may well be correct for USA.

Jack Doughty
United Kingdom
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code confidentiel = PIN n° (UK)


Explanation:
1 - Note FOR THE attention of / NOTE TO the Manufacturers of Electronic Payment Terminals and Automatic Teller Machines (US) / Cash machines (UK)

2 - RE: Approval systems CB5.2:
PIN N° (personal identification number – UK) Management and Security

3 – Further to matters raised by manufacturers, please note/observe the following :


Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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agree  Gayle Wallimann
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memo


Explanation:
note d'information=memo or memorandum



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see explanation.


Explanation:
I think by electronic payment terminals they are talking about the machines where you can buy tickets at bus and train stations. I really don't know what those are called. ATM's are called guichets in France. I would translate gestion as administration (in the sense to administer) you could use administering. Management just doesn't make much sense there. They probably only administer those codes to certain people. You could leave "of information" completely out or use "informative" before note. And I'd leave out the "to" before the colon, also. Good luck!

Barbara Stephens
United States
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agree  Adam Deutsch
2 days 16 hrs

neutral  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: In France ATM = distributeur, guichet automatique... "guichet" alone means the desk inside the bank with a rela live person behind it
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ATM stands for Automated TELLER Machine


Explanation:
Teller Machine is much more widely used

Francesco Barbuto
Local time: 11:16
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
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disagree  Barbara Stephens: In France, ATM's are called guichets.
2 days 5 hrs
  -> Of course they are, since in France you hopefully speak french! ATM is an english acronym!!! ;-)
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