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admises à dire

English translation: shortlisted bidders


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French term or phrase:admises à dire
English translation:shortlisted bidders
Entered by: rcaulfield
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23:25 Nov 15, 2005
French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Business/Commerce (general)
French term or phrase: admises à dire
From a document talking about selection criteria following an invitation to tender:

"La sélection des entreprises "admises à dire" permet de constituer un premier tri parmi celles qui répondent à un projet." For info, the words "admises à dire" are actually in inverted commas in the document itself.
rcaulfield
Local time: 07:46
shortlisted bidders
Explanation:
Sounds like an attempt at rendering "shortlisted", i.e. in the first phase tendering may be open to all, then those from the firms most technically qualified or meeting economic conditions etc. are shortlisted and compared in greater detail or requested to submit a more detailed bit, to negotiate directly, etc. It will all depend on the bidding process adopted.

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Note added at 25 mins (2005-11-15 23:51:17 GMT)
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You are invited to submit a tender for the supply and installation of OFFICE ... The Client shall also, upon selection of the three Shortlisted Bidders, ...
staticfiles.sabc.co.za/VCMStaticProdStage/ CORPORATE/SABC%20Corporate/Document/Tenders/workstor.doc

the price was the main criteria for BSNL for scrapping the earlier tender, it might save another Rs 32 crore if it asks the eight shortlisted bidders to re-bid ...
timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1970090510.cms

The Tender process results in wide variations of prices being offered depending on the different ... Shortlisted bidders are invited to enter negotiations. ...
www.zpa.org.zm/stages.htm


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Note added at 30 mins (2005-11-15 23:56:10 GMT)
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On second thoughts, this may be for a public-sector contract, where the bidding rules are different (in France at least), and there are far stricter checks on a bidders qualifications, financial situation, whether they have filled in the admin. forms correctly and submitted all the required certificates. Only if they pass this first phase will their technical and financial bids actually be opened, i.e. they are "admises à dire" (they will have "said" their tender in sealed envelopes, but the envelopes will only be opened if they have met the preliminary conditions).

It's not fundamentally different from shortlisting, but the method is different.
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xxxBourth
Local time: 07:46
Grading comment
That sounds about right, thanks Bourth
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4 +5shortlisted biddersxxxBourth
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23 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
admises à dire
shortlisted bidders


Explanation:
Sounds like an attempt at rendering "shortlisted", i.e. in the first phase tendering may be open to all, then those from the firms most technically qualified or meeting economic conditions etc. are shortlisted and compared in greater detail or requested to submit a more detailed bit, to negotiate directly, etc. It will all depend on the bidding process adopted.

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Note added at 25 mins (2005-11-15 23:51:17 GMT)
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You are invited to submit a tender for the supply and installation of OFFICE ... The Client shall also, upon selection of the three Shortlisted Bidders, ...
staticfiles.sabc.co.za/VCMStaticProdStage/ CORPORATE/SABC%20Corporate/Document/Tenders/workstor.doc

the price was the main criteria for BSNL for scrapping the earlier tender, it might save another Rs 32 crore if it asks the eight shortlisted bidders to re-bid ...
timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1970090510.cms

The Tender process results in wide variations of prices being offered depending on the different ... Shortlisted bidders are invited to enter negotiations. ...
www.zpa.org.zm/stages.htm


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Note added at 30 mins (2005-11-15 23:56:10 GMT)
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On second thoughts, this may be for a public-sector contract, where the bidding rules are different (in France at least), and there are far stricter checks on a bidders qualifications, financial situation, whether they have filled in the admin. forms correctly and submitted all the required certificates. Only if they pass this first phase will their technical and financial bids actually be opened, i.e. they are "admises à dire" (they will have "said" their tender in sealed envelopes, but the envelopes will only be opened if they have met the preliminary conditions).

It's not fundamentally different from shortlisting, but the method is different.

xxxBourth
Local time: 07:46
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 377
Grading comment
That sounds about right, thanks Bourth

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  xxxsarahl: yes, they made it to finals iow
26 mins

agree  Charlie Bavington: Sounds very plausible. FWIW, the phrase does not appear anywhere in my downloaded copy of the "code des marchés publics"
46 mins

agree  David Goward: From the paragraph supplied, it does sound like a process to separate the corn from the chaff, as it were, so I'd say you're right.
5 hrs

agree  xxxPFB
6 hrs

agree  Sylvia Smith
10 hrs
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21 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
admises à dire
admitted for voting


Explanation:
I'm not sure about this, but I kind of get the idea that it's something like this (i.e. who qualify for the selection process)

Suzy G
Local time: 07:46
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