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allégations

English translation: allegations/claims


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GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
French term or phrase:allégations
English translation:allegations/claims
Entered by: Helen Shiner
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08:21 Jul 28, 2008
French to English translations [PRO]
Business/Commerce (general) / baby milk
French term or phrase: allégations
Surveiller la composition nutritionnelle du lait infantile prescrit en préférant un lait avec un ratio protéique adapté, proche du lait maternel quelles soient les allégations.
Je ne pige pas trop les allégations
Catherine Johnstone
France
Local time: 07:49
allegations
Explanation:
I think this may simply be allegations, or 'whatever people might say'.

There is a huge debate about baby milk and its constituents and I'm presuming reference is being made to it here.
Selected response from:

Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:49
Grading comment
merci
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +6claimsAnthony Lines
3 +4claims
Martin Cassell
3 +3allegations
Helen Shiner
4whatever the allegations are or whatever is being saidEllen Kraus
5 -2representationsxxxwfarkas


Discussion entries: 7





  

Answers


6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
allegations


Explanation:
I think this may simply be allegations, or 'whatever people might say'.

There is a huge debate about baby milk and its constituents and I'm presuming reference is being made to it here.

Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:49
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
merci

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  JOHN A: or assertions
9 mins
  -> Thanks, John
agree  Emma Paulay
13 mins
  -> Thanks, Emma
agree  Tricia Stuart: Right John, perhaps assertions
28 mins
  -> Thanks, Tricia
agree  berg
1 hr
  -> Thanks, berg
disagree  xxxwfarkas: An allegation is an assertion of fact or a statement of the issue that the contributing party is prepared to prove. (The term is used in pleading.)
1 day6 hrs
  -> It all really depends on who is doing the objecting here. It may very well be someone, a pressure group or a company who are/which is very keen to do just that. We have little context. It may well be a question ofeither a scientific or legal challenge
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20 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +6
claims


Explanation:
I think the meaning here is that certain minima should be required, whatever else is claimed by the manufacturer

Anthony Lines
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:49
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 47

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Martin Cassell: oops -- crossed in preparation there! // agree with your reading that the claims in question will be the manufacturers'.
3 mins
agree  Mark Nathan
38 mins
agree  Victoria Burns: definitely 'claims' when relating to a product, as is the case here, not 'allegations'
52 mins
agree  Tricia Stuart
1 hr
agree  Aude Sylvain: yes, same understanding
10 hrs
agree  fourth
22 hrs
agree  Jean-Louis S.
1 day5 hrs
disagree  xxxwfarkas: A claim is a right to money or property. A claim must show the existence of a right or an injury.
1 day6 hrs
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23 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
claims


Explanation:
another option which seems (to me) fairly appropriate to the register. I think there's an implicit element of contrast/opposition here (the unspecified claims are understood to deny the preceding factual assertion).

So for instance "... despite any claims (to the contrary) which may be made."; "... whatever (else) people may claim."

Martin Cassell
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:49
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 52

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tricia Stuart: I agree with your explanation
9 mins
  -> thanks Tricia
agree  Radu DANAILA: The contrast element is obvious - I agree.
28 mins
  -> thanks Radu
agree  Mark Nathan
35 mins
  -> thanks Mark
agree  Philippa
2 hrs
  -> thanks Philippa
agree  BLMS
3 hrs
  -> thanks Eyro
disagree  xxxwfarkas: A claim is a right to money or property. A claim must show the existence of a right or an injury.
1 day6 hrs
  -> thanks for your input, though I must beg to differ: since this applies to more than one answer I have added a note above.
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
whatever the allegations are or whatever is being said


Explanation:
Something is missing in this sentence. I fail to see why the word claims is being suggested in this context. Allegation does not mean claim. Couldn´t you quote the whole sentence ?

Ellen Kraus
Local time: 07:49
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 26

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Martin Cassell: «allégation» can mean "claim"; arguably, in colloquial and semi-formal EN usage, "allegation" is indeed capable of meaning "claim", too // but see my note above, about the meaningfulness of 'mean'
1 day52 mins
neutral  Helen Shiner: Allegation can mean claim; it depends on the context and who is doing what.
1 day4 hrs
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1 day6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -2
representations


Explanation:
A representation is a statement made before or at the time of entering into a contract. A representation may become a term of a contract, if so intended by the parties.

xxxwfarkas
Canada
Local time: 01:49
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Martin Cassell: A valid suggestion but I fear you have mis-evaluated the context; it's not a legal text, it's consumer advice: and I do feel a confidence level of 5 is somewhat over-dogmatic for a semi-formal text, where stylistic choice applies.
45 mins
disagree  Anthony Lines: As Martin says: manufacturers and salespeople regularly "claim" the benefits or advantages of their products and, in this context, claim(s) is in common use.
56 mins
  -> Thank you for the feedback. Do you really mean the term 'representations' is a mistranslation in this context ?
disagree  Helen Shiner: I don't feel this is the appropriate context for use of this term, sorry.
4 hrs
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Changes made by editors
Aug 2, 2008 - Changes made by Helen Shiner:
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