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English translation: synopsis







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French term or phrase:argumentaire
English translation:synopsis
Entered by:Magen O'Farrell
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French to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Cinema, Film, TV, Drama
French term or phrase: argumentaire
"Argumentaire" is used as the heading of the first page of a five page presentation of a documentary film on the subject of an archaeological excavation.
Magen O'Farrell
France
Clarification request(s) and response
MatthewLaSon: 5:44am Oct 25, 2007: I'm not sure how people are getting "synopsis" out of this. According to my monolingual dictionaries, I'm only getting the idea of "defense" (write a defense). I could be wrong, but I'm just going by the definitions I'm reading.
Martin Cassell: 10:34am Oct 25, 2007: Matthew, my PR has: « [Adj.] Qui concerne les arguments de vente. Liste argumentaire.
[N. m.] Document utilisé par le vendeur, contenant l'ensemble des arguments de vente. Rédiger un argumentaire. »

synopsis
Explanation:
If it's a kind of short outline of the content of the rest of the doc (for those who won't read all five pages), I'd go for "synopsis". It's the same meaning as "pitch", but a bit more what you'd find on a written document I think.

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Note added at 41 mins (2007-10-24 09:48:38 GMT)
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Nb. very common term in the film industry, eg:

Bowling for Columbine : About the Film : Synopsis
Film Synopsis · Film One Sheet · Credits · Dedicated · Theaters · DVD. About The Film Synopsis Written, Produced & Directed by Michael Moore. Produced by ...
www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/about/synopsis.php

It's A Wonderful Life (1946)
Review, plot synopsis and discussion of the film.
www.filmsite.org/itsa.html

American Gypsy: The Film
The Film. Jump to: Film Synopsis Full Description · Technical Specs · Pictures · Quotes · Glossary · Order a Copy of the Film. Interview with Jasmine Dellal ...
www.americangypsy.com/the_film/index.html
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Melissa McMahon
Australia
Note from asker to answerer
Thank you. I think this is the best translation in the context of a film summary. Presentation seems good too, but not specific to this context.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +4presentation
Diane de Cicco
3 +4synopsis
Melissa McMahon
3 +1introduction
annaval
5 -1The argument
Gaetan Essoo
3 -1pitch
Martin Cassell
2 -1Written Defense
MatthewLaSon


  

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16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
introduction

Explanation:
introduction

argumentaire is a presentation of a product that must be sold,
but I didn't find any equivalent term in English
Introduction can be a solution.

annaval
Italy
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree Martin Cassell: much more native EN than "presentation"
12 mins
  -> Thank you Martin
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31 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
pitch

Explanation:
this is the film industry term ... otherwise you're back with the generics like "overview": or just read the section concerned and make your own mind up!

Martin Cassell
United Kingdom
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree vera-tech: in my understanding, pitch refers to the entire presentation, in fact, more precisely, to the act itself of trying to sell, not a chapter, nor simply a text
14 hrs
  -> you may be right: perhaps I'm overapplying in the same way as "presentation" gets overapplied? Still, "pitch" does also get used more abstractly, to mean "the key selling points", so it seemed a possibility here.
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
presentation

Explanation:
as you yourself so rightly say to describe what it is

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Note added at 37 mins (2007-10-24 09:43:48 GMT)
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another possibility is SYNOPSIS

Diane de Cicco
France
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree Shaila Kamath
2 mins
  -> Thanks

neutral Martin Cassell: "presentation" is so often carried 'as is' over from the FR, and rarely sounds natural to me in EN; it doesn't feel like a native usage here.
22 mins
  -> I don't agree but given that it is for a film, the word "synopsis" may actually be more appropriate here

agree Melissa McMahon: with synopsis
31 mins
  -> No problem Melissa

agree B D Finch: Synopsis
4 hrs
  -> Thanks

agree vera-tech: synopsis
14 hrs
  -> Thanks
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39 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
synopsis

Explanation:
If it's a kind of short outline of the content of the rest of the doc (for those who won't read all five pages), I'd go for "synopsis". It's the same meaning as "pitch", but a bit more what you'd find on a written document I think.

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Note added at 41 mins (2007-10-24 09:48:38 GMT)
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Nb. very common term in the film industry, eg:

Bowling for Columbine : About the Film : Synopsis
Film Synopsis · Film One Sheet · Credits · Dedicated · Theaters · DVD. About The Film Synopsis Written, Produced & Directed by Michael Moore. Produced by ...
www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/about/synopsis.php

It's A Wonderful Life (1946)
Review, plot synopsis and discussion of the film.
www.filmsite.org/itsa.html

American Gypsy: The Film
The Film. Jump to: Film Synopsis Full Description · Technical Specs · Pictures · Quotes · Glossary · Order a Copy of the Film. Interview with Jasmine Dellal ...
www.americangypsy.com/the_film/index.html

Melissa McMahon
Australia
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
Note from asker to answerer
Thank you. I think this is the best translation in the context of a film summary. Presentation seems good too, but not specific to this context.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree Diane de Cicco: Yes
0 min
  -> Oh dear - sorry Diane - will cancel

agree Martin Cassell: also good
1 hr
  -> thanks - I think Diane actually pipped me though

agree Ingeborg Gowans: would be my preference
1 hr
  -> thanks - I think Diane actually pipped me though

agree jean-jacques alexandre
8 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -1
The argument

Explanation:
This is what I use.

From Oxford University Press :

argument

argument, in the specialized literary sense, a brief summary of the plot or subject‐matter of a long poem (or other work), such as those prefixed to the books of Milton's Paradise Lost; or, in a sense closer to everyday usage, the set of opinions expounded in a work (especially in didactic works) and capable of being paraphrased as a logical sequence of propositions.


    Reference: http://www.answers.com/argument?cat=biz-fin&initiator=Google...
Gaetan Essoo
Canada
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree B D Finch: Not in this context.
53 mins
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20 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Written Defense

Explanation:
Hello,

I could be wrong, that's how I understand it.

argumentaire = liste d'arguments

I hope this helps.



MatthewLaSon
United States
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree Martin Cassell: really doesn't seem to belong to the appropriate « domaine »
4 hrs
  -> I agree that it seems strange in this context. But, I can't be convinced of anything without doing more research.
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