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English translation: Sound On Tape

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French term or phrase:	sot
English translation:	Sound On Tape
Entered by:	Chris Galtress

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14:04 Oct 12, 2009

French to English translations [PRO]
Cinema, Film, TV, Drama

French term or phrase: sot

TV script/instructions....
I have ....
"Sonore Zsolt Boros (dialogue).....sot femme noire (dialogue)....sot enfant (dialogue)"
I have another refernce elsewhere to a "sot homme'; Does this mean 'stupid man/woman/child etc'? It seems to fit for the man as he spouts off about gunning down gypsies.

Chris Galtress KudoZ activity Questions: 116 (4 open) (2 without valid answers) (9 closed without grading) Answers: 13 France
Local time: 13:15

Sound On Tape

Explanation:
Could it be this? Found by googling SOT script then SOT scripting

Sample Voice-Over-Sound-on-Tape (VO/SOT) Script

Selected response from:

Sandra Petch
France
Local time: 13:15

Grading comment

perfect, thanks
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

3 +6

Sound On Tape

Sandra Petch

sync sound

Tony M

5 -6

silly / foolish / stupid

Chris Hall

Summary of reference entries provided
SOT	MoiraB

Discussion entries: 1

Answers

8 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +6

Sound On Tape

Explanation:
Could it be this? Found by googling SOT script then SOT scripting

Sample Voice-Over-Sound-on-Tape (VO/SOT) Script

Sandra Petch
France
Local time: 13:15
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 16

Grading comment

perfect, thanks

Notes to answerer

Asker: Sandra, thanks. I think you are right. I have just dicovered 'Sot journaliste' so my 'stupid' theory won't work. How do you think then that I can different between where it says 'Sot' and 'sonore'?

Asker: Thanks Sandra

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

disagree

Chris Hall: I'm afraid you are barking up the wrong tree here. I believe that the asker just wanted clarification about the meaning of the French adjective "sot". /// Surely it would have been "SOT" then, as opposed to lower case letters???

6 mins

-> Hi - in the context of instructions on a TV script, I think I'm barking in the right place!

agree

MoiraB: I think you could be right, otherwise this script is full of idiots;-) http://tinyurl.com/yfc2rd2 - sometimes sot and other times SOT, and language often specified - also http://tinyurl.com/yzjtu9u = consistently SOT

16 mins

-> Thanks!

agree

Ukyuu: As it is before the dialogue itself, i thinks it refers here to the SOt that is used for the incoming dialog.

18 mins

-> Thank you!

agree

Tony M: Although I'm not familiar with this term in EN (wasn't in such common use AFAIK when I was active in the biz), I feel sure it has to be this.

18 mins

-> Thanks - I'm not an expert and I know this is one of your specialist fields!

agree

hjs45

18 mins

agree

Helen Shiner: particularly since the term dialogue appears in brackets behind these 'idiots', I think you must be spot on.

58 mins

agree

writeaway: confirmed by Moira's ref

1 hr

agree

Martin Cassell: well barked!

19 hrs

8 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -6

silly / foolish / stupid

Explanation:
It can either be a noun or an adjective, but here it is used as an adjective.

Reference: Collins Robert French Dictionary.

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Note added at 9 mins (2009-10-12 14:13:54 GMT)
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As a noun, it can mean either "fool" or "idiot".

Chris Hall
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:15
Native speaker of:

English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

disagree

Sandra Petch: In that case surely it would be "femme noire sotte"?

4 mins

-> The adjective "sot" can appear before the noun. I was assuming that it was a mispelling of "sot" in its feminine form.

disagree

MoiraB: I think it's you who's barking up the wrong tree - see refs in my agree with Sandra

17 mins

disagree

Tony M: I really feel that such a judgemental term would not (should not!) appear distributed liberally like this in a film script

20 mins

disagree

Cath St Clair: It can't be the adjective "sot/sotte" - the grammar is all wrong!

21 mins

disagree

Ukyuu: I thinks that because the script would indeed be full of idiots and there would be something odd about the way it's said. "Homme sot" "femme noire sotte" "enfant sot"... and this word is less and less used, replaced by "idiot" or "imbécile" nowadays.

22 mins

disagree

writeaway: context is crucial for determining how to translate.

1 hr

neutral

Martin Cassell: if everything could be answered by context-free reference to the dictionary we would all be out of a job

19 hrs

1 hr confidence:

SOT sync sound

Explanation:
Given the refs. kindly provide for us by Moira, I'd be inclined to 'translate' the EN acronym in order to remove any possible ambiguity or uncertainty as to the meaning. This is the good old traditional term!

As for the distinction being made with 'sonore', it may or may not actually be a real distinciton, since that might just be a paragrahp heading, for example, explaining that we are now discussing the sound aspects of the production.

Alternatively, it might be referring to 'commentary', 'narration', or 'voice-over' — depending to a certain extent on just who is speaking.

Tony M
France
Local time: 13:15
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 223

Reference comments

38 mins peer agreement (net): +3

Reference: SOT

Reference information:
SOT seems to be the acronym commonly used in English http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_on_tape:
SOT is an acronym for Sound on tape. It refers to any audio recorded on analog or digital video formats. It is used in television and film script writing to indicate portions of the video that will use the natural sound from the time of recording, as opposed to audio recorded later (studio voice-over, foley, etc).

http://ehub.journalism.ku.edu/input/glossary/
(SOT) Sound On Tape
Properly, refers to the sound that was recorded along with the video on any shot. In TV production, SOT often means that the sound on a story of piece of video is played at full volume - all the sound’s on the tape, no voiceover needed.

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Note added at 43 mins (2009-10-12 14:48:04 GMT)
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Sorry, I airily used the word 'commonly', but don't know how common it is in the field, though it obviously exists!
http://www.nfo.ac.uk/collections/records/0012-0002-7208-0000...

Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_on_tape
Reference: http://ehub.journalism.ku.edu/input/glossary/

MoiraB
France
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 2

Note to reference poster

Asker: Excellent reference Moira - thanks very much!