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19:04 Jan 7, 2012

French to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Cinema, Film, TV, Drama / si elle ne laisse plus aucune trace en vous

French term or phrase: si elle ne laisse plus aucune trace en vous

(Last time I didn't provide enough context. This time I'm making up for it)

This is from a series of interviews with Abbas Kiarostami, the Iranian film director, that has already been translated from Farsi, so this is a second, if not third translation. I have been working closely with someone on this project, also from Italian... there is often some really odd stuff, but Kiarostami is a pretty odd kind of guy to begin with. A fascinating man nevertheless.

Here's the entire text :

J'aimerais qu'on revienne sur votre rapport avec le néo-réalisme italien. Je pense notamment à la relation qui s'établit naturellement entre Le Passager et Allmagne année zéro ou Païsa de Rossellini. Avez-vous été marqué par ces films ?

Je ne me souviens pas d'avoir vu ces deux films. Il faut que je remonte très loin dans ma mémoire, mais je n'ai aucune image de ces films dans ma tête. Je crois malgré tout aux influences que l'on subit, mais une influence n'est originale que si elle ne laisse plus aucune trace en vous. S'il y a un rapprochement possible entre mon cinéma et le cinéma néo-réaliste italien, il est sans doute lié à la forme sociale et politique de l'Iran d'aujourd'hui qui esr d'une certaine manière très proche de celle de l'Italie d'après guerre.

Basically it's the entire phrase "Je crois malgré tout........plus aucune trace en vous", but I can't put that all in one Kudoz question. But I think it's necessary to take the whole phrase and reword it entirely otherwise it is incomprehensible, not to mention already pretty odd in French, probably even in Farsi :)

Thanks

jasonwkingsley KudoZ activity Questions: 13 (none open) (3 closed without grading) Answers: 108 France
Local time: 07:51

English translation:see explanation

Explanation:
"I do, however, believe we are subject to influences, though an influence is only really authentic when it leaves no trace in you at all".
I think the problem here is understanding the exact meaning of "original". He is saying something deliberately contradictory, but to make a point: if he were aware of the influence of say Italian neo-Realism on him then he would merely be "copying" what he had seen there. As it is, it may be an influence he is unaware of - and this is what makes it authentic, "original".
Don't forget this is the maker of "Certified Copy" among many other brilliant works...!

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fionn
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Local time: 00:51

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fionn

3 +1

if it no longer leaves its mark on you/no longer leaves you with any feeling of deja-vous

Barbara Cochran

if it leaves no further trace

DLyons

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peer agreement (net): +7

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fionn
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28 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

if it no longer leaves its mark on you/no longer leaves you with any feeling of deja-vous

Explanation:
HTH

Barbara Cochran
Local time: 01:51
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1 hr confidence:

if it leaves no further trace

Explanation:
Another way of phrasing the idea.

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Note added at 1 hr (2012-01-07 20:08:01 GMT)
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The "in you" seems redundant.

DLyons
Ireland
Local time: 06:51
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