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French to English translations [PRO] Tech/Engineering - Computers: Software / Financial program
French term or phrase:code nature
This term comes up repeatedly in contexts such as:
Les groupes de codes natures sont définis dans le menu Code, ils permettent de limiter les positions à inclure dans la validation du risk en fonction du code nature du sous compte sur lequel elle se trouve.
Termium has a definition, but I'm not sure it applies. Any info? Thanks.
Explanation: This a code that specifies the 'nature analytique' of the items in a particular account.
The French finance ministry's Table des code natures d'opérations in an annex in the first link below.
CERN's CET glossary has entries for "Nature" and "Nature Code" (second link below).
The term "nature code" may not be so common in the Anglosphere, but the notion of "nature" is familiar to every accountant. The two accepted ways of presenting an income statement, for example, are "by function" and "by nature".
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If the nature code is associated with a *sub-account*, as seems to be the case here, then it would make sense not to have multiple sub-accounts of the same nature within a given account.
In general, though, the thing that ultimately has a nature is the income or expenditure item. At some level, some accounts have to include items of different nature.
Both solutions work - and this answer even sounds odd, but the example in the accounting context is persuasive. Thank you very much for the links and the help. 4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer
rkillings knows more about accountancy than me - perhap he could confirm the 2 code definitions from the menu make sense from the accountancy perspective? e.g. can you set up multiple sub accounts with an identical 'nature code'?
Thanks a lot - especially for the full translations.
That makes a lot of sense.
Unfortunately there are also cases in the French of "Code Type." (It's a mix of En & Fr usage.) At least I'm persuaded not to use Termium's "feature code."
Thank you.
2 possibilities, depending on the translation of 'nature'
1. 'Type' i.e. 'code type'
2. 'self' - eg in 'self modifying codes', or 'self complimenting codes' - which would put this document in the realms of 'computer science' , and not financial software.
Mostly the context is not a big help. Here are two more:
Code nature associé à ce type de sous-compte. On ne peut pas paramétrer plusieurs sous-comptes avec le même code nature. ----- Les codes nature doivent être différents dans la définition des sous-comptes.
-- S'il y a basculement des espèces, il faut préciser sur quel code nature, ils doivent se replacer.
as they are 'defined in the 'Code' menu', do you have a few examples????
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Code Type
Explanation: On ne peut pas paramétrer plusieurs sous-comptes avec le même code nature = You cannot set up multiple sub-accounts with the same Code Type.
Les codes nature doivent être différents dans la définition des sous-comptes=Code Types must be different in sub account definitions
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I think the use of the word 'type' instead of 'kind' in "Code nature associé à ce type de sous-compte" might be throwing us off the scent
Dr Lofthouse United Kingdom Specializes in field Native speaker of: English, Italian PRO pts in category: 12
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nature code
Explanation: This a code that specifies the 'nature analytique' of the items in a particular account.
The French finance ministry's Table des code natures d'opérations in an annex in the first link below.
CERN's CET glossary has entries for "Nature" and "Nature Code" (second link below).
The term "nature code" may not be so common in the Anglosphere, but the notion of "nature" is familiar to every accountant. The two accepted ways of presenting an income statement, for example, are "by function" and "by nature".
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 23 hrs (2011-06-26 21:14:48 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
If the nature code is associated with a *sub-account*, as seems to be the case here, then it would make sense not to have multiple sub-accounts of the same nature within a given account.
In general, though, the thing that ultimately has a nature is the income or expenditure item. At some level, some accounts have to include items of different nature.
rkillings United States Local time: 22:51 Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 26
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Both solutions work - and this answer even sounds odd, but the example in the accounting context is persuasive. Thank you very much for the links and the help.
The translation workplace 
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