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cable faradisé

English translation: shielded cable (US) or screened cable (UK)

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French term or phrase:	cable faradisé
English translation:	shielded cable (US) or screened cable (UK)
Entered by:	Gayle Wallimann

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18:59 Dec 6, 2004

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Tech/Engineering - Electronics / Elect Eng / electric cables

French term or phrase: cable faradisé

In a text about electric cables.

Context: "une tresse en cuivre étamé à 85 % de recouvrement minimal pour les cables faradisés".

I found the following on the internet, but I don't know what it could be called in English:
"Le cablage vers les machines s’effectue avec un cable faradisé (gainé d’une tresse métallique), les conducteurs ayant un diamètre minimum de 0,25 mm."

Metal-braid sheathed cable???

Stephen McCann KudoZ activity Questions: 22 (none open) (5 closed without grading) Answers: 110
Local time: 09:52

wire mesh shielding ergo mesh shielded cables

Explanation:
as in:

Mesh Shielding. ... Zipper-Mesh™ cable shielding is a convenient and efficient method of providing EMI/EMP protection to harnesses and wire bundles. ...
www.zippertubing.com/prod_shields_mesh.asp - 26k - Cached - Similar pages

WIRE MESH SHIELDING MATERIALWIRE MESH SHIELDING MATERIAL. 300-SERIES. ... 0.312. 0.875. MONEL MESH TAPE. SERIES 301. Ja-Bar manufactures a Monel mesh "tape" for electronic shielding applications ...
www.jabar.com/ja03003.html - 59k - Cached - Similar pages

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Your browser may not have a PDF reader available. Google recommends visiting our text version of this document.
7 DESCRIPTION: Wire mesh shielding utilizes single- strand wire, available in a wide range of metals, knitted and formed into pre- specified cross sections ...
www.jabar.com/Series 300.pdf - Similar pages
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Note added at 4 mins (2004-12-06 19:03:53 GMT)
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FINAL: [wire]mesh shielded cables....

ADVICE: after you say it once, you can just use shielded cables..you don\'t have to repeart wire mesh shielded every time..

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Note added at 5 mins (2004-12-06 19:04:23 GMT)
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WIRE MESH SHIELDED CABLES..is the correct, full term

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Jane Lamb-Ruiz

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wire mesh shielding ergo mesh shielded cables

Jane Lamb-Ruiz

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Tony M

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cable faradisé

wire mesh shielding ergo mesh shielded cables

Jane Lamb-Ruiz
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cable faradisé COMMENT (post-grading)

Explanation:
'wire mesh shielded' may well be OK for AE, but note that 'braided screened cable' would be more plausible for BE.

In your particular case, the 'tresses' indicates that this is indeed a BRAIDED screen (there are others, like lapped screen...), and you really ought to keep this in your translation. In fact, in the precise sentence you give, even 'wire mesh' is unnecessary --- this is simply referring to a shielded/screened cable, since the details of the screening are given. I would translate your given sentence as:

"minimum 85% coverage tinned copper braid for screened/shielded cables".

Note that in your second example found from the Net, this is not quite the same thing; here, it is almost certainly a cable that has been 'retro-screened' if you like by sheathing it with a metallic braid --- the suggestion is very much that this is an 'afterthought', rather than having been manufactured as a specific screened cable; so take this latter example as maybe a bit of a red herring, compared with your original context, where it clearly IS talking about a cable manufactured as screened.

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Note added at 2 hrs 56 mins (2004-12-06 21:56:03 GMT) Post-grading
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I really have to take issue with the idea of \'wire-mesh shielded cable\' as being a direct one-to-one translation of \'câble faradisé\' --- the term on its own simply means \'shielded/screened cable\'. Indeed, this shielding/screening may well be achieved using a wire mesh, but there are plenty of other means also available for creating a screened cable, so adding \'wire-mesh\' is not only unnecessary, but could well be downright misleading!

The word \'faradisé\' merely refers to the PRINCIPLE of screening, without specifying HOW it is achieved.

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Note added at 15 hrs 0 min (2004-12-07 09:59:20 GMT) Post-grading
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Dear Jane
Why do you have to be so \'attacking\'? I only take issue with your \'wire mesh\' BECAUSE IT DOES NOT FORM PART OF ASKER\'S QUERIED TERM, and hence to add it in is misleading from the point of view of the glossary. If you do like me and then give the whole sentence including the added term, that\'s fine; but for the sake of other users of the glossaries not so familiar with our way of working, it is very dangerous to create and apparent 1-2-1 word relationship that does not exist.

As far as the term \'wire mesh\' itself is concerned, personally I don\'t like this as a technical term, since it is at best woolly, and at worst, quite inapt: the kind of screening/shielding commonly used for cables usually bears little resemblance to a \'mesh\' [think chicken wire, fencing, sieves...], but is in fact most often \'tressé\', very closely resembling a \'plait\', or as it is more usually called, a \'braid\'.

Now I accept that the usage of \'wire mesh\' may well be an Americanism; all I can say is that in my 20+ years in the electronics industry in the UK, I often came across the American term \'shielded\' alongside the UK term \'screened\', but I have never encountered \'wire mesh\' in the same context.

All 3 of your references appear to be talking about a different product --- this is the kind of \'wire mesh\' sheathing that can be retro-fitted externally to existing cables (cf. the last paragraph of my original answer)

So please, Jane, before you start accusing others of not reading the whole question as thoroughly as your good self, read my explanation throroughly, and maybe you\'ll see what I\'m driving at.

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Note added at 15 hrs 7 mins (2004-12-07 10:06:54 GMT) Post-grading
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Of over 5,000 Google hits for \"shielded cable\" + \"braid\", here is just one that is spot-on for the context, and uses the terms together:

Intercon 1 Products
89238A, Standard braid shielded cable with black PVC jacket.
89238A-DUAL, Dual shielded cable (braid and foil) with black PVC jacket ...

www.nortechsys.com/intercon/ccxc.shtml

Of 655 Googles for \"shielded cable\" + \"wire mesh\", most that I looked at seem to associate the terms only distantly, or refer to the kind of retro-fit products I\'ve referred to above. Here is one example where the term is clearly being used directly to describe the braiding of a shielded cable --- but note that this site seems to be a guide for non-expert lay people, and as such, I believe is using the term by way of a non-technical explanation only (not the use of the word \'jargon\' in the URL):

Twisted-pair cable

[Shielded] Twisted Pair (STP) has a fine wire mesh surrounding the wires to protect the transmission; Unshielded Twisted Pair (UTP) does not. Shielded cable is used in ...

www.computerhope.com/jargon/t/twispair.htm

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Sorry, that should of course have been \'NOTE the use of...\'

Tony M
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