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Tech/Engineering - Engineering (general) / some kind of document format | | French term or phrase: sous forme d'ozacalque polyester | Could it be "carbon copy", or tracing paper..? The term seems quite specific however. Google wasn't giving much away, in any case !
Context - from a specifications manual which lays down general prescriptions to suppliers of car components:
D - PRESENTATION DES DEFINITIONS FOURNISSEUR
Les définitions techniques du fournisseur doivent être présentées, pour chaque type de pièces ou d'ensembles, sous forme d'ozacalque polyester (1) ; elles doivent :
• être réalisées conformément aux normes de dessin (classe A3) du Groupe ayant pour but de garantir en
particulier la qualité de la restitution après microfilmage,
• porter la référence du cahier des charges du Groupe se rapportant à la pièce (2),
• porter toutes les cotes nécessaires avec leurs tolérances,
• porter l'identification précise des matériaux utilisés, des traitements et des protections éventuelles,
conformément aux normes du Groupe (3),
• être à jour des modifications, |
|  Gary KeyKudoZ activityQuestions: 134 (none open) ( 2 closed without grading) Answers: 47
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| | See explanation below... | Explanation:
I'm not sure of the exact term, but here are a few pointers.
This kind of 'calque' is usually what is known colloquially as a 'blueprint' --- the type of process that used to be used to produce copies of large drawings produced an aniline blue image. More correctly, I believe it is called a 'dyeline print'
The 'oza' part makes me think it is referring to the Ozalid (R) process, one of the several systems for producing this kind of reproduction.
And the 'polyester' refers to the fact that for durability, it was produced, not on paper, but on polyester film. This suggests to me that this would in fact be a master 'negative', intended for the reproduction of further copies.
OK, so that's what it is (and I am pretty sure about this) --- but I'm afraid I don't know what the correct way to express this in appropriate technical language is in English.
But I suspect with those keywords, you should get somewhere on Google.
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'polyester dyeline master' might be suitable for your needs...
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Gary, just a word of warning:
Given the format of the original sentence, I would read this as being 'a drawing on...' --- don't forget that 'calque' can be both the material, and a drawing in that form.
As it says 'sous forme de...' rather than 'sur...', I think you need to acknowledge the nicety of meaning there; they are asking that thes drawings be supplied in a specific format, instead of the now almost ubiquitous CAD files. |
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Tony M
France
Local time: 23:31
| Grading comment Thanks Dusty and Suzanne, I'll do a bit more research on these terms and pick one of them out.
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1 hr confidence:  peer agreement (net): -1 tracing paper
Explanation:
bearing in mind that one has to present to the supliers all the tolerances and sketches, I believe it refferes to presenting the suppliers with drawings therefore one would use "tracing paper".
Tracing paper is used for copying models, drawing, technical drawings
Carbon paper is thin paper coated with a mixture of wax and pigment, that is used between two sheets of ordinary paper to make one or more copies of an original document.
Used mostly for invoices, receipts etc...administration documents- prevents people from having to write the same documents more than one time.
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here you can read more about carbon paper:
http://www.kevinlaurence.net/essays/cc.php
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Tracing Paper White 12inx20yd
241 x 225 pixels - 10k - jpg
www.draftingsuppliesdew.com
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tracing paper
A paper used for duplicating drawings, figures, etc. It may be either a translucent, greaseproof paper, or a bond or manifold paper treated chemically or oiled so as to increase its transparency. It is produced from cotton fiber, chemical wood pulps, or combinations thereof, in basis weights ranging from 7 1/4 to 16 pounds (17 X 22—500). Important properties include proper receptivity to drawing ink and transparency, so that prints from the tracings can be made.
http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/don/dt/dt3557.html
| Cristina Chaplin
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:31
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Romanian
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Asker: Thanks for your research, Awana
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21 hrs confidence: peer agreement (net): +1
7 hrs confidence:  peer agreement (net): +1 See explanation below...
Explanation:
I'm not sure of the exact term, but here are a few pointers.
This kind of 'calque' is usually what is known colloquially as a 'blueprint' --- the type of process that used to be used to produce copies of large drawings produced an aniline blue image. More correctly, I believe it is called a 'dyeline print'
The 'oza' part makes me think it is referring to the Ozalid (R) process, one of the several systems for producing this kind of reproduction.
And the 'polyester' refers to the fact that for durability, it was produced, not on paper, but on polyester film. This suggests to me that this would in fact be a master 'negative', intended for the reproduction of further copies.
OK, so that's what it is (and I am pretty sure about this) --- but I'm afraid I don't know what the correct way to express this in appropriate technical language is in English.
But I suspect with those keywords, you should get somewhere on Google.
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Note added at 9 hrs (2006-02-02 08:39:42 GMT)
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'polyester dyeline master' might be suitable for your needs...
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Note added at 1 day8 hrs (2006-02-03 07:52:25 GMT) Post-grading
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Gary, just a word of warning:
Given the format of the original sentence, I would read this as being 'a drawing on...' --- don't forget that 'calque' can be both the material, and a drawing in that form.
As it says 'sous forme de...' rather than 'sur...', I think you need to acknowledge the nicety of meaning there; they are asking that thes drawings be supplied in a specific format, instead of the now almost ubiquitous CAD files.
| Tony M
France
Local time: 23:31
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Native speaker of:  English
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| | Grading comment | Thanks Dusty and Suzanne, I'll do a bit more research on these terms and pick one of them out. |
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