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à l’origine du jus de fermentation.

English translation: and which are what create the \"jus\" that causes fermentation

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French term or phrase:	à l’origine du jus de fermentation.
English translation:	and which are what create the \"jus\" that causes fermentation
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Tech/Engineering - Engineering (general) / biogas production in a landfill

French term or phrase: à l’origine du jus de fermentation.

This is taken from a very long document about landfill management - biogas production in particular. I am having trouble with the phrase above - although the rest of the paragraph is clear to me - and, I hope, self-explanatory for the purposes of this question. I show my effort below the French and would be most grateful for comments/suggestions. The phrase appears towards the end of the paragraph.

La production du biogaz

Lors de la biodégradation de la matière organique des déchets stockés en ISD, du biogaz est produit selon différentes phases [23]. D’abord il y a l’hydrolyse réalisées par des bactéries hydrolytiques, étape au cours de laquelle les macromolécules qui constituent la matière organique se décomposent en petites molécules solubles en présence d’eau et ***à l’origine du jus de fermentation. ***Contrairement aux phases suivantes, cette phase est aérobie.

And here's what I have so far:

During biodegradation of the organic matter in the waste stored in a landfill, biogas is produced depending on the various phases.[23]. Firstly there is hydrolysis caused by hydrolytic bacteria, a stage during which the macromolecules which constitute the organic matter break down into small soluble molecules in the presence of water and ***et à l’origine du jus de fermentation. ***Unlike the following phases, this phase is aerobic.

I am understanding the 'jus de fermentation' to be the 'fermentation liquids' which cause the waste mass to ferment and thus produce biogas...

Does it simply mean something like: in the presence of water and thus the formation of fermentation liquids? Or am I missing something here? I am sure someone out there will know the answer!

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and which are what create the "jus" that causes fermentation

Explanation:
not sure how best to translate "jus" but this is the gist

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Note added at 25 mins (2008-01-05 10:02:03 GMT)
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"selon" can even be "following"

Selected response from:

xxxCMJ_Trans
Local time: 23:33

Grading comment

Fair comment about 'depending' and quite agree...but it was a first draft with which I was not happy. Many thanks.
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produces fermentable liquids

Bashiqa

3 +1

and which are what create the "jus" that causes fermentation

xxxCMJ_Trans

which form the initial fermentation liquid

Claire Cox

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10 mins confidence:

produces fermentable liquids

Explanation:
Bubble, bubble etc

Bashiqa
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peer agreement (net): +1

and which are what create the "jus" that causes fermentation

xxxCMJ_Trans
Local time: 23:33
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English
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Grading comment

Fair comment about 'depending' and quite agree...but it was a first draft with which I was not happy. Many thanks.

14 hrs confidence:

which form the initial fermentation liquid

Explanation:
I think if you use a relative clause for both soluble and this bit, it makes more sense:

a stage during which the macromolecules which constitute the organic matter break down into small molecules which are soluble in the presence of water and which form the initial fermentation liquid.

I'd also translate selon just as "in" - are produced in various phases.

Claire Cox
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PRO pts in category: 55

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