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English translation: bull chart/diagram/map


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French term or phrase:bête à cornes
English translation:bull chart/diagram/map
Entered by: giorgioten
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05:06 Mar 15, 2011
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Tech/Engineering - Engineering (general) / diagrams
French term or phrase: bête à cornes
La « bête à cornes » ci dessous exprime le besoin client auquel le système (auquel la butée hydraulique à l'étude appartient) doit repondre.

Follows a central large elliptic shape with a caption, with two other smaller elliptic shapes with other captions on either side of the central larger elliptic shape
giorgioten
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bull chart/diagram/map
Explanation:
The Apte site Petitavoine refers to also mentions a pieuvre chart which would appear to be an "ocotpus diagram" or "octopus map", described here as of use in ISO quality-management and logistics processing:
http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=7490&highlight=oct...

I'd venture "bull chart/map/diagram", being sexist and living in a world where cows - and generally bulls too for that matter, except for corridas - are dehorned.
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Petitavoine
1 +2bull chart/diagram/mapxxxBourth
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Méthode Apte
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bull chart/diagram/map


Explanation:
The Apte site Petitavoine refers to also mentions a pieuvre chart which would appear to be an "ocotpus diagram" or "octopus map", described here as of use in ISO quality-management and logistics processing:
http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=7490&highlight=oct...

I'd venture "bull chart/map/diagram", being sexist and living in a world where cows - and generally bulls too for that matter, except for corridas - are dehorned.

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agree  Catharine Cellier-Smart: good suggestion given that there seems to be no (other) translation of "bête à cornes" that can be found
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agree  Wordeffect: Clear and simple. (The Salers cows round here all have magnificent full handlebars!)
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cattle-head diagram (known as


Explanation:
I think "bête à cornes" should stay since it's under copyright - not to be found in english-speaking areas by Google, it seems - and very much in use in France. APTE is, however, more or less adapted from Larry Miles' tools and theories to fit the French ways.

Cattle is historically the translation for bête à cornes, but I'm not dead set on it... and I don't know what cattle-head sounds like.
Copyright : I can't find the sign at the moment (how do I bring it into my answer field ?)

As in these proceedings written in English by French contributors:
"... NPD method provides several tools, adapted from the
field of Value Analysis, to help formalize the answers: one of
them is known as the "bête à corne" (APTE terminology [7])" (stephanie.buisine.free.fr/publis/ICAD06.pdf)

...Perhaps there is something similar in the Value Engineering= VA-VE (Value Analysis - Value Engineering) from Larry Miles, because APTE derives from Miles' ideas.

Under inventive-design, you'll see what the horns are for - under 7. description

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Note added at 4 hrs (2011-03-15 09:28:06 GMT)
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cattle-head diagram (known as "bête à cornes", APTE copyright)
was my answer

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Note added at 17 hrs (2011-03-15 22:52:44 GMT)
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Un clin d'oeil avec une autre "bête à cornes" http://www.laprovence.com/photo/voici-un-wasuti-surnomme-bet...


    Reference: http://www.inventive-design.net/content/view/29/1/
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Reference: Méthode Apte

Reference information:
http://www.methode-apte.com/methode_outils.htm

La bête à cornes est un outil de la méthode Apte pour définir les besoins

Petitavoine
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neutral  kashew: Excellent reference
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Changes made by editors
Mar 15, 2011 - Changes made by Stéphanie Soudais:
Term askedbete à cornes => bête à cornes
Field (specific)Automotive / Cars & Trucks => Engineering (general)


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