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English translation: pumping in of seawater and discharging it back into the sea


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French term or phrase:Pompage de l’eau de mer & rejet en mer
English translation:pumping in of seawater and discharging it back into the sea
Entered by: Eliane Pollet
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19:05 Oct 1, 2011
French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Environment & Ecology / thalasso
French term or phrase: Pompage de l’eau de mer & rejet en mer
Bonsoir,

Comment traduiriez-vous l'expression

"Pompage de l’eau de mer & rejet en mer"

Sea water pumping & ...........

Merci
Eliane Pollet
Local time: 23:37
pumping in of seawater and discharging it back into the sea
Explanation:
I think the term discharging is appropriate here (although returning could also be used).
Selected response from:

Mark Radcliffe
United Kingdom
Grading comment
Thank you for your help.
Best regards
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Summary of answers provided
4 +4pumping in of seawater and discharging it back into the sea
Mark Radcliffe
3 +3sea-water intake and discharge
Tony M
4 +1seawater pumping and outfallxxxBourth
4pumping seawater before returning it to the sea1045
5 -1pumping and disposal of ...
Rosa Paredes
2pumping and return of seawatercc in nyc
3 -1seawater puming and rejection (to the sea)Zareh Darakjian Ph.D.


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18 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
pumping and return of seawater


Explanation:
Little more than a guess with so little text.

cc in nyc
Local time: 17:37
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 20
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21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
seawater puming and rejection (to the sea)


Explanation:
http://www.tntdpc.com/NIOT_Technologies.pdf

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Note added at 21 mins (2011-10-01 19:26:47 GMT)
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Sorry - "pumping"...

Zareh Darakjian Ph.D.
Local time: 14:37
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ArmenianArmenian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Tony M: 'rejection' is I'm afraid a faux ami here.
46 mins
  -> Thank you, Tony, for your input. I am not sure... how to decide whether it is a true blue friend or a false one... I have my doubts about rejection, but I also have heard this in scientific research circles... but may be it's not as common as I thought.
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25 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -1
pumping and disposal of ...


Explanation:
http://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/rejeter
throw out vt.
www.pumpsofoklahoma.com/salt-water-pumps
Pumps of Oklahoma has variety of saltwater disposal or salt water injection pumps that can meet the needs of saltwater disposal. We offer saltwater disposal ...
www.trinitypumpen.com/
Bentonite Pumps, Salt Water Disposal, Water Flooding, Oil Pipeline Transfer, Sand Fracing, Acid, Alkali, Solvents, Cement Slurry, Hydraulic Power Oil, Airport ...


Rosa Paredes
Canada
Local time: 14:37
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Tony M: Not 'disposal' in this context
40 mins
  -> Tony, although context is lacking, I think you're right, "discharge" is the term not 'disposal'. Thanks
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56 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
pumping in of seawater and discharging it back into the sea


Explanation:
I think the term discharging is appropriate here (although returning could also be used).


    Reference: http://www.france-thalasso.com/Natural-seawater
Mark Radcliffe
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thank you for your help.
Best regards
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you Mark. Best regards


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony M: Certainly for 'discharge', though as so often, these nouns sit rather awkwardly in EN; and I don't think that 'pumping in' is probably applicable here.
10 mins
  -> Thanks Tony
agree  Zareh Darakjian Ph.D.: with "discharge"...
20 mins
  -> Thanks Zareh
agree  Andrew Levine: I'd delete the word "of"
26 mins
  -> Thanks Andrew - yes could probably do without "of" - but much depends on the context.
agree  Sarita Jannin
20 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
pumping seawater before returning it to the sea


Explanation:
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1045
Canada
Local time: 17:37
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Tony M: I think that rather too much implies that the pumping is the object of the exercise — which I feel sure it isn't! / But we already know this is thalasso...
19 mins
  -> Some ships, pump seawater into a device which extracts 'rare' metals and then, the seawater is pumped back into the sea ... If we only had more context!
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
pompage de l’eau de mer at rejet en mer
sea-water intake and discharge


Explanation:
Depending on context, the 'pompage' bit may be self-evident and not needed here, likewise, the fact that the discharge is 'back to the sea' — but we'd need to see just how it is being used in order to help you better.

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Note added at 1 heure (2011-10-01 20:16:17 GMT)
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Depends really if the emphasis needs to be placed on the 'pumping' or not; if so, then in EN we might say something like 'pumping sea water in and discharging it back again'... you see why the context is so important?

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Note added at 12 heures (2011-10-02 07:18:42 GMT)
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To show why context is important, it's perhaps useful to consider what this expression is being used as, and how it appears in the text. Is it a stand-alone heading? If so, it would be good to know what the following section goes on to discuss. I suspect it would be a heading, simply because of the use of the ampersand (which would normally be out of place in body text)

So if it is a heading, what is the tenor of it? The fact that 'pompage' appears right up front suggests it may be emphasized here (though I personally can't think why)

So if this is a treatise on pumping sea water, one might well express it as "The pumping of..." — though as usual, the '[noun] + of' construction is typically FR, and often sits awkwardly in EN.

So perhaps we need "How we pump the sea water..." — if that's really what it's all about.

Or the emphasis might be on the sea water itself. And are we talking about the sea water, specifically — "How we pump the sea water into the tank", or in general terms "Pumping sea water cause problems of corrosion"?

It's impossible to satisfactorily answer all these questions just from the snippet of information we have, and so we can never know what the 'ideal' solution might be.

Tony M
France
Local time: 23:37
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 18

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Michele Fauble
7 mins
  -> Merci, Michele !
agree  Zareh Darakjian Ph.D.: One [possible solution.... Though not so sure about "intake"... // I know that you are right... I don't have the experience to allow me to advance my point of view. In certain instances, in science, jargon or lingo replaces more "natural" usage.
8 mins
  -> Thanks, Zareh! Depending on context, it is often used in this doublet.
agree  casper: Come to think of it, "text and context" is the doublet for translators
7 hrs
  -> Thanks, :-) ! Oh yes indeed, well put!
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1 day27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
seawater pumping and outfall


Explanation:
Unless you know pompage refers to pumping in of seawater from the sea -and not, say, pumping of seawater within the installation, possibly at higher pressures ( for massage jetting, etc.) than for simply supply purposes - it might be advisable to stick close to the French. If you know it is supply or intake from the sea, then use those words, certainly.

I assume your rejet is that of seawater FROM the facility, not something infinitely nastier. Again, the word engineering types might expect to see is "outfall".

www.gov.mu/.../Appendix_18.G_BMT_WBM_ELCOM_ ...
SEA WATER INTAKE AND OUTFALL –. Far Field Thermal Plume. Dispersion Assessment for. Power Plant Project at Point- aux-Caves, Mauritius. A part of BMT in ...

www.southernwater.co.uk/homeAndLeisure/.../LittleHistory.as...
But modern requirements - particularly in avoiding pollution through storm overflows and SEA WATER OUTFALLS - mean that extensive work has to be undertaken to ...

www.bhavini.nic.in/project3.asp
100% works of the SEA WATER OUTFALL channel has been completed. And the Seal pit Inlet & outlet has been constructed. The connection of PFBR outfall channel ...

cr4.globalspec.com/thread/.../Steam-turbine-condenser-vacuum-prob...
Currently, it also observed the SEA WATER OUTFALL temperature increase to 40 deg C . Based on DOE requirement, the outfall should not more than ...

www.hdpepipe.com.au/
Whether it is a river crossing, SEA-WATER OUTFALL, chemical treatment line, coal seam-gas gathering system, or through acid sulphate soil, HDPE pipe products are ...

www.armanasco.com/index.cfm/article_1219.htm
29 Nov 2010 – The proposed publically-owned water operation at Moss Landing will utilize the existing SEA WATER OUTFALL PIPES used by Desal America, Calera, ...





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Note added at 1 day38 mins (2011-10-02 19:43:26 GMT)
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And before anyone counters with "But an outfall is an émissaire ((de rejet (en mer))", i.e. the structure discharging water or effluent, not the water or effluent itself – which is indeed the definition one is likely to find in dictionaries, here are few examples of the use of "outfall" with reference to the contents discharged by such a structure:

www.santamonicabay.org/smbay/ProblemsSolutions/.../Default....
THE HIGH VOLUME OF OUTFALL CONTAINED A LARGE QUANTITY OF SUSPENDED SOLIDS that most ... abnormally high densities of sea urchins, which are major kelp predators. ...

www.rdn.bc.ca › Home › Environmental › Wastewater Services
THE OUTFALL IS DISCHARGED into the Strait of Georgia at a depth of 61 meters, 2440 meters off shore. FUTURE IMPOVEMENTS/PROJECTS. The Regional District is ...

www.srcsd.com/pdf/iws-instructions.pdf
State yes or no to indicate if the PROCESS OUTFALL IS DISCHARGED IN BATCHES. - State the number of discharges and the frequency of discharges for each ...

www.trailersailerplace.com.au/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t...
Chapman creek is where the Bolivar WASTEATER TREATMENT PLANT OUTFALL IS DISCHARGED into. This discharge travels about 17km from the Bolivar ...

mapping.uvic.ca/gsa/node/154
14 Dec 2010 – ... typical residential strength sewage. THE OUTFALL IS DISCHARGED INTO the Northumberland Channel at a depth of 43 metres, 242 metres off shore ...

books.google.com/books?isbn=0750661658...Hubert Chanson - 2004 - Technology & Engineering - 430 pages
THE OUTFALL IS DISCHARGED AT THE BOTTOM of the 2.2 m deep river where the characteristic velocity is about 0.3m/s while the free-surface velocity equals ...

www.thenorthernlight.com/.../2011-07-14_council_approves_bi...
14 Jul 2011 – He added that Blaine's WASTEWATER TREATMENT OUTFALL IS DISCHARGED into Semiahmoo Bay, and the change would have little impact on water ...



xxxBourth
Local time: 23:37
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 221

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony M: Perfect in a civil engineering context; unclear if the context here is quite the same.
1 hr
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