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Science - Fisheries

French term or phrase: os du bras

I'm trying to translate a document written in 1835 and they are describing Lampris, the use the term "os du bras" in the description. Does this simply translate as "bones of the hand"? Or is this some special expression that is escaping me?

Daniel Weston
United States

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Look for 19th century fish guys, Cuvier and Aggassiz

Stephanie Ezrol

Discussion entries: 8

Daniel Weston

United States

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Thanks

02:52 Oct 22, 2009

Thank you for the reference!

xxxmediamatrix

Webrefs... (about whales but the idea's the same)

02:01 Oct 22, 2009

Baleine A Bosse . En Images . Video. Terra Nova - [ Traducir esta página ]
23 juin 2006 ... Baleine à bosse qui agite ses nageoires pectorales . © Terra Nova. Facétieuse, cette baleine nage souvent sur le dos en agitant les « bras » ...
www.dinosoria.com/baleine-bosse.htm - En caché - SimilaresLE RORQUAL BLEU OU BALEINE BLEUE-Balaenoptera musculus - [ Traducir esta página ]
12 juil 2009 ... Le rorqual bleu a une nageoire pectorale sur chaque côte de son corps. Elles remplacent les bras. La nageoire caudale est sur la queue du ...
www.manimalworld.net/rubrique,rorqual-bleu,23839.html - En caché - SimilaresPourquoi appelle t-on la baleine à bosse? A t-elle une bosse ...
Cette baleine est en fait un rorqual mais qui diffère des autres par son aspect massif et ses longues nageoires pectorales. ...
es.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid... - En caché - Similaresbaleine - [ Traducir esta página ]
Son squelette ressemble au notre : la nageoire pectorale comporte tous les os du bras, depuis l'omoplate, jusqu'aux 5 doigts de la main. baleine franche du ...
biassev.free.fr/baleine.htm - Similares

Daniel Weston

United States

ASKER

Thanks

01:28 Oct 22, 2009

Thanks Tony - did you switch it to allow non-members to answer? That would be great if you did/could

Tony M

France

Found your text!

01:12 Oct 22, 2009

OK, now I have the complete text in front of me, i think M/M is totally on the right track, and hope he will now enter an answer

Daniel Weston

United States

ASKER

Thanks

22:47 Oct 21, 2009

Thank you mediamatrix. Next time I won't restrict - the document is very long so I'm sure there will be a few more questions.

xxxmediamatrix

Ideas...

22:41 Oct 21, 2009

If you hadn't restricted this to members-only, I might have posted some webrefs suggesting it refers to the bony material in the 'nageoires péctoraux' which are sometimes equated to the 'arms' of a fish owing to their position on either side of the fish, just behind the head.

Daniel Weston

United States

ASKER

I meant "arm" - sorry, I'm tired! here is more:

22:17 Oct 21, 2009

They are describing a fish: “Le corps du lampris est légèrement comprimé ; l’épaisseur ne fait pas le sixième de la longueur totale ; son contour longitudinal est ovale, plus élevé en avant, et s’amincit par degrés en arrière ; […] ce que nous verrons résulter de la largeur des **os du bras**

Tony M

France

bones of/in the arm

21:54 Oct 21, 2009

I'd actually have thought it was 'arm' rather than hand; but in any case, please could you give us the source text in FR, so we can see just how it is being used — in particular, is it being used to describe a human, and is it being used literally or figuratively?

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Reference: Look for 19th century fish guys, Cuvier and Aggassiz

Reference information:
One of the leading experts on fish/ichthyology in the 19th century was Louis Agassiz who was Swiss. I think he wrote in French, and much of his work is translated. He was a student of Georges Cuvier, who was French.
You might be able to find some work from one of them, and the English translation from that period; or at least get more context for the idea.

Example sentence(s):

I have devoted my whole life to the study of Nature, and yet a single sentence may express all that I have done. I have shown that there is a correspondence between the succession of Fishes in geological times and the different stages of their growth in t

Reference: http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/agassiz.html

Stephanie Ezrol
United States
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