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morge or morgée

English translation: smear ripened


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Food & Dairy / Cheese
French term or phrase: morge or morgée
Apart from a referene to a type of cheese called "Mylord" I can find nothing anywhere to describe what this means. I would be hugely grateful for any suggestions! Here it is in context ... "croûte fine avec morge de couleur pâte blanche, avec quelques ouvertures biologiques
croûte lisse jaune orangée, légèrement morgée, sans moisissures"
thanks
Britaly
France
Local time: 23:41
English translation:smear ripened
Explanation:
sounds disgusting - only for scientific use. I would put 'morge' (even this sounds a bit deathly) and give a short explanation in brackets or some similar trick of the tail...

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Note added at 16 mins (2006-08-23 21:00:36 GMT)
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check this out: http://www.fromag.com/dicos.html
Also, if you look at the big, dodgy Grand Dictionnaire under smear, it sends you to Peau de Crapaud (but gives a good explanation) .... bon appetit
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Connor
France
Local time: 23:41
Grading comment
Bravo for the dGD ... and thanks. It came up with viscous and sticky mmm....
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2cheese smear Dolores Vázquez
4 +1smear ripenedConnor
4washed-rind cheese
Daniela Ciafardoni
3morge, morge-wiped
Bourth


  

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1 min   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
cheese smear


Explanation:
substance gluante qui se forme à la surface de certains fromages(Clement).


    Reference: http://ec.europa.eu/eurodicautom/Controller
Dolores Vázquez
Spain
Native speaker of: Native in GalicianGalician, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi Rachel - this is a "fin gourmet" goat's cheese - only for experienced nibblers apparently


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mark Nathan: http://www.agrarforschung.ch/en/inh_det.php?id=65
6 mins
  -> Thanks.
agree  Rachel Fell: Can we know what sort of cheese this question's about please? http://shop.fratellicamisa.co.uk/category489980123.html
15 mins
  -> Thanks.
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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
smear ripened


Explanation:
sounds disgusting - only for scientific use. I would put 'morge' (even this sounds a bit deathly) and give a short explanation in brackets or some similar trick of the tail...

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Note added at 16 mins (2006-08-23 21:00:36 GMT)
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check this out: http://www.fromag.com/dicos.html
Also, if you look at the big, dodgy Grand Dictionnaire under smear, it sends you to Peau de Crapaud (but gives a good explanation) .... bon appetit

Connor
France
Local time: 23:41
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Bravo for the dGD ... and thanks. It came up with viscous and sticky mmm....

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Daniela Ciafardoni: agree
59 mins
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
washed-rind cheese


Explanation:
Another idea could be:
Washed-rind cheeses are periodically bathed in a saltwater brine as they age, making their surfaces amenable to a class of bacteria (the reddish-orange "smear bacteria").

Saumure : Solution à base d’eau et de sel avec laquelle on frotte les fromages ou dans laquelle on plonge les fromages à pâte dure ou demi-dure afin de durcir la croûte et ainsi de mieux les conserver. On dit aussi morge.

Example sentence(s):
  • What really sets washed-rind cheeses apart, however, is how they are ripened. During the curing stage, they are washed regularly in a mild brine solution containing a substance known as red smear. Often, at the beginning of the ripening process, colouring
Daniela Ciafardoni
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:41
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 3
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
morge, morge-wiped


Explanation:
Morge - Brine enriched with scrapings from old cheeses, used to rub the surfaces of some cheeses during affinage
[Dorling Kindersley "French Cheeses"]

The cheese is pressed, brine-soaked and aged, during which time it is rubbed with salt and wiped with a cloth soaked in a morge (made by mixing the sticky, brown rinds of old cheese with saltwater.).
http://www.cheesesupply.com/product_info.php?products_id=49

So it's not something that occurs naturally. However I'm not sure if the "morge" on a cheese is this mixture or a surface coating induced by the treatment (through biological action).


Bourth
France
Local time: 23:41
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 97
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