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French: dont la longévité est dépassée par

English translation: whose long period of growth has not been interrupted by the cycle of forest fires



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French term or phrase:dont la longévité est dépassée par
English translation:whose long period of growth has not been interrupted by the cycle of forest fires
Entered by:Pina Trans
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Art/Literary - Forestry / Wood / Timber / Quebec French
French term or phrase: dont la longévité est dépassée par
I call this the paragraph from hell. I'm getting lost in the wordiness of it. Has the uneven-aged forest been affected by fire or not?? Am I on the right track if I say "... there is an uneven-aged forest whose longevity goes beyond the period of fire cycles..." or "... whose longevity has surpassed the period of fire cycles..." Or is it the opposite???

Épargnées par le feu depuis des siècles, plusieurs îles centrales du grand lac Naococane présentent elles aussi des peuplements forestiers particuliers. Comme le mécanisme de régénération naturelle de la pessière noire ne peut avoir lieu, on constate alors la présence d’une forêt inéquienne dont la longévité est dépassée par la période de rotation des feux et qui ne se régénère que par marcottage, laissant place ainsi à une recrudescence du sapin baumier qui y pousse en abondance. Mentionnons qu’une telle composition forestière ne se retrouve plus guère au nord de cette latitude, avoisinant le Nunavik.
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Clarification request(s) and response
Pina Trans (asker): 3:05pm Mar 28, 2005: marcottage - = layering
Pina Trans (asker): 3:08pm Mar 28, 2005: Here's a good reference RE marcottage - http://sfm-1.biology.ualberta.ca/english/pubs/PDF/PR_1999-27...
suezen: 3:11pm Mar 28, 2005: yes, layering -

whose growth has not been interrupted by natural-occuring forest fires
Explanation:
it is saying that there has not been any of those fires in this forest..that would have regenerated it naturally..and therfore is has only had new growth through marcottage...what is that? I assume that is what they call "selective logging"...right?

Does it make sense to you now?

uneven-age forest is, I think, in this collocations: old growth, new growth, mixed-growth or mixed-age growth

I mean I always here: old growth forest so from that I deduce, new growth and mixed-growth.....meaning old and new...

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correction: naturally-occurring forest fires

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final: whose long period of growth has not been interrupted by naturally-occuring forest fires



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Pina....,FYI, this is the politics on this: forest managers have said for a while, that limited fires in forests are good because they spark new growth and regeneration of the fire....the \"brush\" fires can get rid of undergrowth and help a forest to revive...

In the USA, there is now a call for setting these fires, believe it or not...

though there is not academic agreement on the efficacy of these techniques, there is consensus that some fires do regenerate forests...

cheers

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wildlife. Old-growth and mixed-growth forests continue to lose ground to
intensive logging, forest fires, and insect infestations. ...
www.cwf-fcf.org/pages/issuesandactions/ issuesspeciesatrisk_e.asp?section=9&page=60&language=e - 51k - Cached - Similar pages

Cohen, Shaul Ephraim: The Politics of Planting
... Palestinians cultivate olive groves as a vital agricultural resource, while the
Israeli government has made restoration of mixed-growth forests a national ...
www.press.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/hfs.cgi/00/12303.ctl - 7k - Cached - Similar pages

What human activities remove wildlife habitat? The ongoing ...
... coupled with extensive losses caused by forest fires and insects each year, is steadily
reducing the area covered by old-growth and mixed-growth forests. ...
www.ncf.ca/ip/social.services/ eco/info/primer/wild/habitat - 2k - Cached - Similar pages



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final: whose long period of growth has not been interrupted by naturally-occuring forest fires


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naturally-occuring cycle of forest fires..
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Jane Lamb-Ruiz
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5whose growth has not been interrupted by natural-occuring forest fires
Jane Lamb-Ruiz
4 +1in which the fire cycle exceeds stand longevityMools


  

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in which the fire cycle exceeds stand longevity

Explanation:
ie the long fire cycle (possibly several hundred years)allows regeneration/propagation to occur through layering - shoots and branches take root while still attached to the parent.

Here are a couple of useful links:

Good luck!





    Reference: http://www.cfl.scf.rncan.gc.ca/CFL-LFC/publications/activite...
    Reference: http://www.nps.gov/seki/fire/fire_gloss.htm
Mools
France
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

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agree NewCal
1 hr

neutral Jane Lamb-Ruiz: I am sorry but this just make sense to me..I don;t see the idea explained..wrong way round..in the logic even though the French seems to saying this: whose longevity is beyond the fire cyucle..ie has not been interrupted
4 hrs
  -> fire cycle = fire-return interval (time between two sucessive fires over a specfied area); stand = growth/trees in the area/forest. Hope that helps!
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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
whose growth has not been interrupted by natural-occuring forest fires

Explanation:
it is saying that there has not been any of those fires in this forest..that would have regenerated it naturally..and therfore is has only had new growth through marcottage...what is that? I assume that is what they call "selective logging"...right?

Does it make sense to you now?

uneven-age forest is, I think, in this collocations: old growth, new growth, mixed-growth or mixed-age growth

I mean I always here: old growth forest so from that I deduce, new growth and mixed-growth.....meaning old and new...

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Note added at 13 mins (2005-03-28 15:02:40 GMT)
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correction: naturally-occurring forest fires

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Note added at 15 mins (2005-03-28 15:04:43 GMT)
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final: whose long period of growth has not been interrupted by naturally-occuring forest fires



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Note added at 18 mins (2005-03-28 15:07:34 GMT)
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Pina....,FYI, this is the politics on this: forest managers have said for a while, that limited fires in forests are good because they spark new growth and regeneration of the fire....the \"brush\" fires can get rid of undergrowth and help a forest to revive...

In the USA, there is now a call for setting these fires, believe it or not...

though there is not academic agreement on the efficacy of these techniques, there is consensus that some fires do regenerate forests...

cheers

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Note added at 19 mins (2005-03-28 15:08:36 GMT)
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wildlife. Old-growth and mixed-growth forests continue to lose ground to
intensive logging, forest fires, and insect infestations. ...
www.cwf-fcf.org/pages/issuesandactions/ issuesspeciesatrisk_e.asp?section=9&page=60&language=e - 51k - Cached - Similar pages

Cohen, Shaul Ephraim: The Politics of Planting
... Palestinians cultivate olive groves as a vital agricultural resource, while the
Israeli government has made restoration of mixed-growth forests a national ...
www.press.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/hfs.cgi/00/12303.ctl - 7k - Cached - Similar pages

What human activities remove wildlife habitat? The ongoing ...
... coupled with extensive losses caused by forest fires and insects each year, is steadily
reducing the area covered by old-growth and mixed-growth forests. ...
www.ncf.ca/ip/social.services/ eco/info/primer/wild/habitat - 2k - Cached - Similar pages



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Note added at 3 hrs 1 min (2005-03-28 17:50:14 GMT)
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final: whose long period of growth has not been interrupted by naturally-occuring forest fires


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Note added at 6 hrs 37 mins (2005-03-28 21:26:08 GMT)
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naturally-occuring cycle of forest fires..

Jane Lamb-Ruiz
United States
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