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ascenceur social

English translation: social ladder


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French term or phrase:ascenceur social
English translation:social ladder
Entered by: cc in nyc
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17:54 Jan 20, 2012
French to English translations [PRO]
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French term or phrase: ascenceur social
Phénomène de "déclassement" : l'ascenseur social français en panne
L'éducation, un ascenseur social ?
cebou
Local time: 13:32
social ladder
Explanation:
That's what it sounds like to me.

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Here are some references:

Main Entry: social ladder
Part of Speech: n
Definition: the hierarchical structure of a society; also called [ social scale ]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/social ladder

"Social Ladder Forms Early in Life"
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNews/climbing-social-la...

"The Social Ladder"
http://www.feverbee.com/2011/01/the-social-ladder.html

"Down the Tube? Up the Social Ladder"
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2011/11/tube-...



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Perhaps, for l'ascenseur social français en panne": "down the French social ladder" ;-)
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cc in nyc
Local time: 07:32
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Summary of answers provided
4 +4social laddercc in nyc
4 +3social ladderEmiliano Pantoja
4social escalatorrkillings
3upward social mobility/ social upward mobility/ social elevator
pooja_chic


Discussion entries: 5





  

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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
social ladder


Explanation:
to climb up the social ladder

Emiliano Pantoja
Local time: 13:32
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Laurel Clausen
11 mins
  -> Thanks

agree  piazza d
12 mins
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agree  Ségolène Neilson: that is right a ladder is slower than a lift like British trains!!
32 mins
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
social ladder


Explanation:
That's what it sounds like to me.

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Note added at 12 mins (2012-01-20 18:06:54 GMT)
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Here are some references:

Main Entry: social ladder
Part of Speech: n
Definition: the hierarchical structure of a society; also called [ social scale ]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/social ladder

"Social Ladder Forms Early in Life"
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNews/climbing-social-la...

"The Social Ladder"
http://www.feverbee.com/2011/01/the-social-ladder.html

"Down the Tube? Up the Social Ladder"
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2011/11/tube-...



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Perhaps, for l'ascenseur social français en panne": "down the French social ladder" ;-)

cc in nyc
Local time: 07:32
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 111
Grading comment
thanks

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  NancyLynn: came to me too
3 mins
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agree  Laurel Clausen
13 mins
  -> Thank you.

agree  writeaway: as confirmed by (and found in) Fr-En dictionaries
7 hrs
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agree  Just Opera: standard translation. the 'ascenseur' = lift (figuratively) is 'en panne' = out of service (which relates to 'déclassement')
17 hrs
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1 day1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
upward social mobility/ social upward mobility/ social elevator


Explanation:

http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/wbs/research/irru/ywesrc/s...
In this context, another noteworthy concept has been used by authors such as Louis
Chauvel (2000) or Camille Peugny (2009): ‘déclassement’ reflect the idea of being
‘downgraded’. The concept encapsulates an inter-generational dimension in that with equal or
better qualifications than their parents, young people are not accessing equal employment
conditions. The aspirations that were formed around there being some upward social mobility
(the famous social elevator or “ascenseur social”) are not being fulfilled. This of course
brings in its wake strong feelings of social injustice.
http://econpapers.repec.org/article/caireofsp/reof_5f096_5f0...
http://www.kbs-frb.be/publication.aspx?id=247140&LangType=10...
http://www.historianhouse.us/FlimFiction/cohen_affaire
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/26/business/worldbusiness/26i...
http://www.jobmob-and-famlives.eu/papers/JFW_06-01_Widmer_Sc...

pooja_chic
Local time: 17:02
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  cc in nyc: But in the context of "déclassement," upward motion won't do; the social ladder leads down as well as up
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2 days12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
social escalator


Explanation:
You have to climb a ladder to rise, but on an escalator (or a lift) you merely get on and ride. The metaphor here is not hierarchy but the means of moving people up it.

The ~3k Ghits for "social escalator" are probably more germane to this context (social policy, "instrument of social mobility") than the ~900k Ghits for "social ladder".

rkillings
United States
Local time: 04:32
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
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Jan 23 - Changes made by cc in nyc:
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Jan 21 - Changes made by writeaway:
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