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English translation: adjacent properties


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21:12 Oct 5, 2011
French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Geology / geotechnical
French term or phrase: avoisinants
I'm trying to find a noun for "avoisinants" as I have only been able to find it as an adjective.
I am translating a document titled "Classification des missions types d'ingénierie géotechnique"
In the section titled "ETUDE GEOTECHNIQUE D'AVANT PROJET"
It says:
"Elle est réalisée au stade d'avant projet et permet de réduire des risques majeurs identifiés:
...
- Fournir un rapport donnant les hypothèses géotechniques à prendre en compte au stade de l'avant projet, certains principes généraux de construction (notamment terrassements, soutènements, fondations, dispositions générales vis-à-vis des nappes et avoisinants)."

Another example: "Faire une enquête documentaire sur le cadre géotechnique spécifique du site et l'existence d'avoisinants."
Imogen Hancock
Local time: 17:07
English translation:adjacent properties
Explanation:
It's often used this vague way to refer to ANYTHING nearby: fences, houses, roads, railways, rivers, etc. All these things necessarily belong to some'body', so "property" , in its broadest sense, is one way of addressing it.

Though this is about geotechnics, it doesn't necessarily involve only the subsoil. They refer to excavation and retaining works, for instance, and the effect these might have on groundwater. But excavation and retaining works could affect adjacent properties if soil stability is not guaranteed (any movement might cause the neighbour's house or a road to subside for ex.). Lowering the water table to allow for excavation in the dry could cause subsidence in neighbouring properties, or could affect their water supply if they have a borehole, etc. Drilling holes into the ground offers opportunities for pollution of the groundwater, with subsequent risks if neighbours use that water, etc.

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Un ouvrage géotechnique est toujours un prototype
• Par le contexte géotechnique du site sensible à l’anomalie ponctuelle naturelle ou du fait de l’homme
• Par le contexte de voisinage AVOISINANTS SOUTERRAINS OU EN SURFACE, contraintes urbaines

[...]
L’étude de l’impact sur le voisinage passe par une bonne connaissance du contexte géotechnique au droit de la ZIG, des OUVRAGES AVOISINANTS (STRUCTURE ET CONDITIONS DE FONDATION)
• La limitation de l’impact sur le voisinage passe par la maîtrise des poussières, des bruits, des vibrations, des déformations du terrain, des fluctuations de nappes…
http://www.solscope.fr/pdf/resumer_colloque/SOLSCOPE_2011-1_...

here you have examples of avoisinants, but these are all subsurface, which is only a subset:

Caves, souterrains, constructions sur pieux bois, etc
http://dominiqueatkins.com/BLOG/1010_M2_Marquis.pdf

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xxxBourth
Local time: 18:07
Grading comment
many thanks! "neighbouring properties" was also a valid option I fetl
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Summary of answers provided
4adjacent propertiesxxxBourth
3 +1neighbouring propertiescchat
3etc.xxxmediamatrix
3 -1subterranean structuresblavatsky
1boundariesreeny


  

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etc.


Explanation:
'avoisinants' is sometimes used in this way simply to mean 'and similar (topics)'. Most commonly expressed in English as: 'etc.'

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That said, it doesn't fit your second extract from the ST...

xxxmediamatrix
Local time: 12:07
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: Agree with your reading of the first example and with your reticence to its application to the second! Might it not mean : "[the existence] of whatever is surroundings"? Stab in the dark on my part, but perhaps a slinky way of saying "whatever"?
21 mins
  -> Thanks. I like your idea about the second example. Along the lines of: 'anything in the (immediate) vicinity that might influence (or interfere with) what we're doing here'.
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adjacent properties


Explanation:
It's often used this vague way to refer to ANYTHING nearby: fences, houses, roads, railways, rivers, etc. All these things necessarily belong to some'body', so "property" , in its broadest sense, is one way of addressing it.

Though this is about geotechnics, it doesn't necessarily involve only the subsoil. They refer to excavation and retaining works, for instance, and the effect these might have on groundwater. But excavation and retaining works could affect adjacent properties if soil stability is not guaranteed (any movement might cause the neighbour's house or a road to subside for ex.). Lowering the water table to allow for excavation in the dry could cause subsidence in neighbouring properties, or could affect their water supply if they have a borehole, etc. Drilling holes into the ground offers opportunities for pollution of the groundwater, with subsequent risks if neighbours use that water, etc.

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Note added at 1 hr (2011-10-05 22:52:09 GMT)
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Un ouvrage géotechnique est toujours un prototype
• Par le contexte géotechnique du site sensible à l’anomalie ponctuelle naturelle ou du fait de l’homme
• Par le contexte de voisinage AVOISINANTS SOUTERRAINS OU EN SURFACE, contraintes urbaines

[...]
L’étude de l’impact sur le voisinage passe par une bonne connaissance du contexte géotechnique au droit de la ZIG, des OUVRAGES AVOISINANTS (STRUCTURE ET CONDITIONS DE FONDATION)
• La limitation de l’impact sur le voisinage passe par la maîtrise des poussières, des bruits, des vibrations, des déformations du terrain, des fluctuations de nappes…
http://www.solscope.fr/pdf/resumer_colloque/SOLSCOPE_2011-1_...

here you have examples of avoisinants, but these are all subsurface, which is only a subset:

Caves, souterrains, constructions sur pieux bois, etc
http://dominiqueatkins.com/BLOG/1010_M2_Marquis.pdf



xxxBourth
Local time: 18:07
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 142
Grading comment
many thanks! "neighbouring properties" was also a valid option I fetl

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  B D Finch: I don't think that rivers or other geographical features are commonly included in the term "properties".// The people may be thought of as belonging to the land, rather than the other way round.
10 hrs
  -> Agreed, but they necessarily belong to someone, if only Her Majesty, the State, or the People!
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neighbouring properties


Explanation:
This would give you the possible option of neighbours as a noun if it fit the context in some cases.
I think, like Bourth, that the examples refer to properties in the vicinity that might be at risk, but you'd have to check each context.

cchat
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16
Notes to answerer
Asker: many thanks for your suggestion, there wasn't much between yours and Bourth's so in the end I went for the person who posted first


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  mimi 254: http://www.smabtp.fr/WebFondation/WEB_P_SERVICES_FONDATION.N...
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boundaries


Explanation:
Stab in the dark maybe.....

reeny
Local time: 18:07
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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subterranean structures


Explanation:
When doing risk assessment the engineering report may require knowledge of neighbouring subterranean structures

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L’étude de l’impact sur le voisinage passe par une bonne connaissance du contexte géotechnique au droit de la ZIG, des OUVRAGES AVOISINANTS (STRUCTURE ET CONDITIONS DE FONDATION)
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taken from Bourh's link above

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When I originally thought about this, subterranean waterways came to mind as I noticed engineers placed these pipes in tall cut away walls and then cement rendered around them.

blavatsky
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  B D Finch: No reason on (or under) Earth why they should be either subterranean or structures.
2 hrs
  -> That's a bit rich saying these are not related to subterranean structures.."(notamment terrassements, soutènements, fondations, dispositions générales vis-à-vis des nappes et avoisinants)" Two ways to look at nappes, groundwater above or below ground
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