French: clerc tonsuréEnglish translation: tonsured cleric KudoZ The KudoZ network provides a framework for translators ... More |
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French to English translations [PRO] History / Clergy | | French term or phrase: clerc tonsuré | In a history journal article about seminarist and, later, doctor Armand-Jean de Mauvillain (1651-1677).
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"Grand fut notre surprise en découvrant un acte notarié, daté du 5 juillet 1669, qualifiant le jeune Mauvillain '**clerc tonçuré (tonsuré)** de cestte ville de Paris y demeurant au séminaire Saint-Lazare, proche la porte Saint-Denis.'"
"Il est vrai que Armand-Jean, étant **clerc tonsuré,** pouvait bénéficier d'un canonicat, la tonsure, signe d'adoption par l'Église, étant la condition sine qua non d'attibution d'une prébende."
Does this mean he was priestly clerk? Or clerk to a priest? Or something else?
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| | Clarification request(s) and responsewriteaway: 9:20am Jan 1, 2008: did you check the dictionaries or www?
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| | tonsured cleric | Explanation: "clerc" is clerk, or cleric, not priest : though a clerk in the middle ages was probably a priest.
See quote below (window at Chartres Cathedral).
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Or http://donjim.blogspot.com/2004/04/whats-subdeacon.html
"the Church allows any tonsured cleric (the equivalent of a seminarian with candidacy) ..." |
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| TONSURED PRIEST
Explanation: In seminars, to become a priest, you first got the first diaconate, then with the second diaconate you got the tonsure. So here they mean the stage previous to be a full "official" priest, but already being able to give communion, etc
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