ProZ.com global directory of translation services
 The translation workplace
Ideas
KudoZ home » French to English » History

support des armes

English translation: supporters for the shield of the coat of arms


Login or register (free and only takes a few minutes) to participate in this question.

You will also have access to many other tools and opportunities designed for those who have language-related jobs
(or are passionate about them). Participation is free and the site has a strict confidentiality policy.
GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
French term or phrase:support des armes
English translation:supporters for the shield of the coat of arms
Options:
- Contribute to this entry
- Include in personal glossary

14:52 May 19, 2010
    The asker opted for community grading. The question was closed on 2010-05-22 18:54:08 based on peer agreement (or, if there were too few peer comments, asker preference.)


French to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - History / héraldique
French term or phrase: support des armes
traité d'héraldique
George Holoch
supporters for the shield of the coat of arms
Explanation:
I believe this refers to the design element where animals, or some sort of tree branches or something like that supports the shield of the heraldic coat of arms.

The following website has a nice diagram with names for all of the elements of the coat of arms.

http://www.fleurdelis.com/coatofarms.htm

"supporters: usually two animals, birds or persons, appearing on either side of the shield."

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 hr (2010-05-19 16:18:57 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Wikipedia has a similar schematic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms

Another commonly seen charge is the eagle, which is a symbol attributed to Saladin, and the hawk of the Qureish. They are commonly found as supporters in the heraldic achievements of several nations in the Near and Middle Eastern region.

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 hr (2010-05-19 16:21:03 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

AND from a glossary of Heraldic Terms:

The supporters, however, to the arms of the Earl of HUNTINGDON are without horns. The Triton, or mer-man, occurs as a supporter, e.g. to the arms of Lord LYTTELTON, and in more than one instance as a crest, e.g. of Sir Tatton SYKES and of the family of LANG in Leicestershire and Suffolk. The Neptune, q.v., in the arms of Sir Isaac HEARD, Garter King of Arms 1750, is sometimes blazoned as a Triton. The supporters to the Insignia of 'The ACADEMY OF THE MUSES,' London, were 'dexter, a Satyr; sinister, a Mer-man.'

http://www.4crests.com/sheraldicterms.html
Selected response from:

Stephanie Ezrol
United States
Local time: 12:10
Grading comment
Many thanks--I've verified the Wikipedia entry, which I should have consulted to begin with.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +2supporters for the shield of the coat of arms
Stephanie Ezrol
5heraldist / crest designer
Liliane Hatem
Summary of reference entries provided
support des armes
Travelin Ann
supporterxxxBourth

  

Answers


52 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
heraldist / crest designer


Explanation:
In the National Occupational Classification (NOC), official occupational titles in Group 5243 - Theatre, Fashion, Exhibit and Other Creative Designers.

Liliane Hatem
Local time: 19:10
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ArabicArabic
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
supporters for the shield of the coat of arms


Explanation:
I believe this refers to the design element where animals, or some sort of tree branches or something like that supports the shield of the heraldic coat of arms.

The following website has a nice diagram with names for all of the elements of the coat of arms.

http://www.fleurdelis.com/coatofarms.htm

"supporters: usually two animals, birds or persons, appearing on either side of the shield."

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 hr (2010-05-19 16:18:57 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Wikipedia has a similar schematic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms

Another commonly seen charge is the eagle, which is a symbol attributed to Saladin, and the hawk of the Qureish. They are commonly found as supporters in the heraldic achievements of several nations in the Near and Middle Eastern region.

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 hr (2010-05-19 16:21:03 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

AND from a glossary of Heraldic Terms:

The supporters, however, to the arms of the Earl of HUNTINGDON are without horns. The Triton, or mer-man, occurs as a supporter, e.g. to the arms of Lord LYTTELTON, and in more than one instance as a crest, e.g. of Sir Tatton SYKES and of the family of LANG in Leicestershire and Suffolk. The Neptune, q.v., in the arms of Sir Isaac HEARD, Garter King of Arms 1750, is sometimes blazoned as a Triton. The supporters to the Insignia of 'The ACADEMY OF THE MUSES,' London, were 'dexter, a Satyr; sinister, a Mer-man.'

http://www.4crests.com/sheraldicterms.html

Stephanie Ezrol
United States
Local time: 12:10
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Many thanks--I've verified the Wikipedia entry, which I should have consulted to begin with.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Travelin Ann
16 mins
  -> Thanks Ann.

agree  xxxBourth
3 hrs
  -> Thanks Bourth.
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)




Reference comments


1 hr
Reference: support des armes

Reference information:
support

nom masculin


3. HÉRALDIQUE Figure d'animal placée à côté de l'écu et qui semble le supporter.

Copyright (©) Larousse 2009

Travelin Ann
United States
Native speaker of: English
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

4 hrs
Reference: supporter

Reference information:
The SUPPORTERS are native Australian animals: the red kangaroo (Macropus rufus) and the emu (Dromaius novaehollandiae). ...
www.dfat.gov.au/facts/coat_of_arms.html

SUPPORTERS, European woman and a Maori Chieftain ... Until 1911, New Zealand used the same national coat of arms as the United Kingdom. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_New_Zealand

Royal coat of arms of the United Kingdom. UK Royal Coat of Arms.svg. Versions .... The sinister SUPPORTER is a crowned lion, symbolising England. ...
en.wikipedia.org/.../Royal_coat_of_arms_of_the_United_Kingdom

xxxBourth
France
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 154
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)




Return to KudoZ list


KudoZ™ translation help
The KudoZ network provides a framework for translators and others to assist each other with translations or explanations of terms and short phrases.



See also: