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English translation: long distance communication


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French term or phrase:téléphonie
English translation:long distance communication
Entered by: Constantinos Faridis
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07:25 Aug 9, 2010
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History / Historical design
French term or phrase: téléphonie
In a text about a chateau, describing plans for a new town in the second decade of the 16th century, including a lake for naval battles, landing stages, water channels etc. It also includes "téléphonie" - what does that mean at this time in history, please? Full context: "un château prestigieux, pourvu d’un bassin pour des joutes navales avec téléphonie, embarcadères, allées d’eau, écluses à sas, fontaines et d’immenses écuries royales. " Thanks is advance for any help!
Nicky Over
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:10
long distance communication
Explanation:
The telephone (from the Greek: τῆλε, tēle, "far" and φωνή, phōnē, "voice"), often colloquially referred to as a phone, is a telecommunications device that transmits and receives sound, most commonly the human voice.
The equipment for long distance communication is very important. Communication takes place either through heliograph signaling using a flashing mirror, ...
www.hq.nasa.gov/.../noord40.html
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Constantinos Faridis
Greece
Local time: 19:10
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Thanks for your help.
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Summary of answers provided
3 +3communications
Callum Walker
5it is a contamination
Gene Selkov
4 +1long distance communicationConstantinos Faridis
Summary of reference entries provided
context (documents wouldn't open)
writeaway

Discussion entries: 10





  

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12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
téléphonie (here)
communications


Explanation:
Not in the sense of "TELEcommunications" or 'oral/written communications', but in the more geographical sense of communications - i.e. rivers, roads ... i.e. it is well connected to the surrounding area? This is more of a hunch than a proposition with any conviction, but that is how I read it.

I must point out that I'm not certain though, so perhaps wait for some other opinions!

Callum Walker
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:10
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Christopher Crockett: Yes, perhaps something like "means of communication"?
5 hrs
  -> Yes I agree :-)

agree  Chris Hall: Agree with Christopher, "means of communication".
7 hrs
  -> Thanks :-)

agree  Gabriella Bertelmann: agree, communications capability
9 hrs
  -> Thanks :-)

neutral  Jim Tucker: Wouldn't "téléphonie" have to refer to voice communication specifically? Is there some contamination here with the expanded EN sense of the word "communication"? // A single parallel in FR would clinch your argument.
9 hrs
  -> Under ordinary circumstances I would agree with you, but I'm just not sure why a reference would be made to a specific type of communciation in this context. You may well be right, but that is just my opinion on the matter for what it is worth. :-)
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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
téléphonie (here)
long distance communication


Explanation:
The telephone (from the Greek: τῆλε, tēle, "far" and φωνή, phōnē, "voice"), often colloquially referred to as a phone, is a telecommunications device that transmits and receives sound, most commonly the human voice.
The equipment for long distance communication is very important. Communication takes place either through heliograph signaling using a flashing mirror, ...
www.hq.nasa.gov/.../noord40.html

Constantinos Faridis
Greece
Local time: 19:10
Native speaker of: Greek
PRO pts in category: 4
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Thanks for your help.

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agree  amanda solymosi
8 hrs
  -> thank you Amanda
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
it is a contamination


Explanation:
The only instance of téléphonie I could find is in the trace left in google cache by the 2009 expo prospectus from Clos Lucé. The document itself has been pulled.

Following writeway's link, I have examined the current documents at http://www.vinci-closluce.com/

They are all reasonable and none of them mentions téléphonie. Joutes navales are mentioned at this page from l'Université de Liège: http://culture.ulg.ac.be/jcms/prod_93961/leonard-l-homme-de-...

(without any hint of anything that could be construed as téléphonie or communication of any kind).

How it made its way into the source document is anyone's guess. A clipboard error, perhaps. I would ether ignore it or make a comment saying that is an obvious error.

Gene Selkov
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:10
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Chris Hall: I don't agree that it is a "contamination".
3 hrs

agree  Jim Tucker: This should at least be considered. I think your strongest argument is its placement (in first position!) in a list whose other items are all more broadly architectonic features. I considered letter-corruptions (like "téléphorie") but no luck as yet.
5 hrs
  -> Thank you Jim; it is a combination of arguments like this that makes me think that téléphonie is totally out of place here. I did honestly attempt to rationalise it. If you can post a discussion entry, I will follow up with more details.
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Reference comments


23 mins
Reference: context (documents wouldn't open)

Reference information:
LEONARD DE VINCI ET LA FRANCE Exposition 25 juin 2009 – 31 janvier ...
Pour cette nouvelle Rome,. Léonard imagine un château modèle prestigieux, pourvu d'un bassin pour des joutes navales avec téléphonie, embarcadères, allées d'eau, écluses à sas, fontaines et d'immenses écuries ... carnavals, joutes et fêtes, ou encore le croquis de la noble vue du Château Royal d'Amboise, ...
www.closluce.com/img_loader.asp?pth=actu_doc/DP_expo...et_l...


Léonard de Vinci au Château du Clos Lucé - contribution FSB catalogue

Il conçoit pour le roi un projet architectural d'un immense et grandiose ... Léonard imagine un château modèle prestigieux, pourvu d'un bassin pour des joutes navales avec téléphonie, embarcadères, allées d'eau, écluses à sas, fontaines et ... joutes et fêtes, ou encore le croquis de la noble vue du Château Royal ...
www.clos-luce.com/pdf/saintbris.pdf

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Changes made by editors
Aug 16, 2010 - Changes made by Constantinos Faridis:
Created KOG entryKudoZ term => KOG term
Aug 9, 2010 - Changes made by Astrid Elke Johnson:
Term askedtéléphonie (here) => téléphonie


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