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French: dans tout le monde sans fil

English translation: every conceivable wireless application



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French term or phrase:dans tout le monde sans fil
English translation:every conceivable wireless application
Entered by:Mark Nathan
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Tech/Engineering - Internet, e-Commerce / future of the Internet
French term or phrase: dans tout le monde sans fil
L’Internet, qui voulait triompher avec la dictature du protocole IP, s’aperçoit que finalement, il n’est pas possible d’étendre ce format IP dans tout le monde sans fil, à cause de la mobilité, à cause des ressources rares de l’Internet des choses, à cause du gaspillage de place dans le format des en-têtes. Le problème de l’adressage est un réel problème au niveau mondial. IPv6 n’est pas une solution, car il gonfle encore cet en-tête, et tous les problèmes d’intimité numérique ne sont pas traités, en confondant l’identification et l’adressage , en n’enrichissant pas la coupure privé-public de l’Internet actuel.

I suppose this can be translated fairly literally, but can someone just explain (briefly) the concept being presented - what is the problem with the IP format and the "monde sans fil"?
Mark Nathan
France
Clarification request(s) and response
xxxCMJ_Trans: 9:52pm Apr 2, 2007: "tout le monde sans fil" refers to the whole world of wireless transactions. The rest should be self-explanatory
Mark Nathan: 9:44am Apr 3, 2007: Thanks everyone. This text mixes philosophical observations and metaphors with down-to-earth comments, - sometimes, particularly at two in the morning, I have trouble telling them apart.

every conceivable wireless application
Explanation:
as in ....it is not possible to extend the IP format to... - just to give it a not-too-literal-might-have-been-written-by-an-Englishman feel.

This is not, incidentally, application in the sense of "system", but rather "circumstance under which wireless technology might be applied", which obviously includes the more restricted meaning and therefore works fine whichever way you look at it.

Link discussing the issue wrt to IP headers here:
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=272194
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Charlie Bavington
United Kingdom
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thanks everyone
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1every conceivable wireless applicationCharlie Bavington
3 +1see explanationAlain Pommet
2throughout the wireless world
Philippe Etienne


  

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every conceivable wireless application

Explanation:
as in ....it is not possible to extend the IP format to... - just to give it a not-too-literal-might-have-been-written-by-an-Englishman feel.

This is not, incidentally, application in the sense of "system", but rather "circumstance under which wireless technology might be applied", which obviously includes the more restricted meaning and therefore works fine whichever way you look at it.

Link discussing the issue wrt to IP headers here:
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=272194

Charlie Bavington
United Kingdom
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Note from asker to answerer
thanks everyone

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree rousselures: The source text is very badly written, your translation is a whole lot better! :-)
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
see explanation

Explanation:
Mark - you asked for a short explanation. I'll try.

Data over the internet is sent in packets - that is the original file or whatever is cut into bits and then 'wrapped' up to make a packet. The first part of each packet isn't data as such but info. about what is in the packet and where it should be delivered this is called the 'header'. IP - Internet Protocol version 4 uses a 4 byte addressing system and the size of the header in all is 256 bytes ( have to check that out). Because the internet is increasing so quickly there is a new IP version that effectively doubles all this header information -version 6

Because IP is a data packet technology, this reassembling of the packets is fairly inefficient, so what the article is saying is that other protocols are needed instead of IP which will cut out a lot of the control data contained in the headers. In other words this technology is fine for file transfers but not for internet radio / video etc as it's just too inefficient. HTH

Alain Pommet
France
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree Charles Hawtrey: Or almost. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_v6 for a fairly exhaustive explanation if you can survive the English that's at times impressive in its obscurity and use of TLAs.
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throughout the wireless world

Explanation:
to keep closer to the source text: to spread/extend this IP format throughout... Alain very well explained the issue.
The French already feels like a translation.

Philippe Etienne
Morocco
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Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
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