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English translation: Online Service Provider OSP

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French term or phrase:	PSI
English translation:	Online Service Provider OSP
Entered by:	Transitwrite

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06:40 Jul 5, 2010

French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Internet, e-Commerce / Abbreviation -- equivalent in English

French term or phrase: PSI

"Historiquement les PSI ne disposaient pas d’accord de peering avec les principaux FAI et opérateurs de réseaux (Tier 1) mais acquittaient des frais de transit. L’avènement de quelques PSI majeurs, comme Google avec Youtube, a changé cet état de fait en inversant le rapport de force. L’attractivité des contenus agrégés et leur volumétrie, ont contraints les principaux FAI à accepter des accords de peering avec ces PSI. Or, ces services sont aussi parmi les plus consommateurs de bande passante. Ils nécessitent des investissements très significatifs de la part des FAI sans que ceux-ci aient le pouvoir de contraindre les PSI à un minimum d’efficience dans la gestion de la bande passante."

For the moment I've got "providers of services on the internet" as obviously I can't use ISP.

Conor McAuley KudoZ activity Questions: 986 (14 open) (1 without valid answers) (71 closed without grading) Answers: 1863 France
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Online Service Provider OSP

Explanation:
Could this be the nuance?

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_int...

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Transitwrite
France
Local time: 18:13

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Summary of answers provided

3 +6

Online Service Provider OSP

Transitwrite

4 +1

Internet Content Provider (ICP)

xxxSMcG

1 +1

SPI

Tony M

3 -2

Internet service providers (ISP) / providers of Internet services

Cristina intern

Summary of reference entries provided

US Service Providers Glossary

Alison MacG

Answers

8 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -2

Internet service providers (ISP) / providers of Internet services

Explanation:
Internet Service Providers Association
The ***Internet Services Providers' Association (ISPA UK)*** is the ***UK's Trade Association for providers of Internet services***. ISPA UK was established in 1995 and ...
www.ispa.org.uk/

***Internet service providers (ISP)*** · Autoresponders ...
www.emailaddresses.com/

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Note added at 57 mins (2010-07-05 07:38:51 GMT)
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Internet access provider (IAP) = fournisseur d'accès à Internet (FAI)
Internet service provider (ISP) = Fournisseur de services Internet (FSI)

FAI - Fournisseurs d'accès à Internet
FAI signifie littéralement Fournisseur d'accès à Internet. ... Internet Service Provider (traduction: Fournisseur de services Internet).
www.commentcamarche.net/contents/utile/fai.php3

An ***Internet service provider (ISP)***, also sometimes referred to as an ***Internet access provider (IAP)***, is a company that offers its customers access to the Internet.[1] The ISP connects to its customers using a data transmission technology appropriate for delivering Internet Protocol Paradigm, such as dial-up, DSL, cable modem, wireless or dedicated high-speed interconnects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_service_provider

Un ***fournisseur d'accès à Internet (FAI)***, est un organisme (généralement une entreprise) offrant une connexion au réseau informatique Internet. Le terme en anglais désignant un FAI est Internet Service Provider (ISP) ou Internet Access Provider (IAP).
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fournisseur_d'accès_à_Internet

Cristina intern
Germany
Local time: 18:13
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Native speaker of:

Italian

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disagree

xxxSMcG: FAI = ISP

29 mins

-> ??? - Disagree is IMO excessive - Il faut connaitre la difference entre accès et services. -- "FAI signifie littéralement Fournisseur d'accès à Internet. ... Internet Service Provider (traduction: Fournisseur de services Internet)." - www.commentcamarc

disagree

Tony M: Would be confusing here / Yes, but the whole trouble is, EN normally uses 'ISP' for 'FAI', so you can't also use it for 'PSI', which is Asker's whole problem here. ('IAP' is much less common in EN.)

1 hr

-> ??? - Disagree is IMO excessive -- Il faut connaitre la difference entre accès et services. --- Internet access provider (IAP) = fournisseur d'accès à Internet (FAI) ---- Internet service provider (ISP) = Fournisseur de services Internet (FSI)

neutral

writeaway: quelques PSI majeurs, comme Google avec Youtube. so only if Google is an ISP

1 hr

-> Thanks Writeaway, constructive comments welcome, but disagree are IMO excessive.

neutral

Martin Cassell: there's a difference between the literal meaning of the component words and the real-world application of the term // in the asker's well-explained context it's a false friend, so disagree is understandable (I just saw no point adding another)

5 hrs

-> Thanks Martin, constructive comments welcome, but disagree are IMO excessive.

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +6

Online Service Provider OSP

Explanation:
Could this be the nuance?

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_int...

Transitwrite
France
Local time: 18:13
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

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1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

SPI

Explanation:
'service provider over Internet'

I quite understand your problem here, since you clearly can't use 'ISP' for two different things.

You may be able to research something using that clue about YouTube, but this (AFAIK) made-up term might be one solution to consider.

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-07-05 08:20:20 GMT)
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The whole problem is that EN traditionally has not made the difference between 'access' and 'services'; so historically, we refer to Internet Service Providers (= ISP) for what FR more accurately (and with hindsight!) refers to as FAI (= access providers).

This historical situation now means that with the arrival of a new type of 'over-the-internet' service provider, we are a bit stuck for a term to use!

Unfortunately, IAP is not universally used, so there is no way we can 'force' people to understand IAP and ISP as different things.

Tony M
France
Local time: 18:13
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 12

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

Internet Content Provider (ICP)

Explanation:
another option:

(2) (Internet Content Provider) An organization that provides news, reference, audio or video content for its own Web sites and/or for third-party Web sites.

Reference: http://www.answers.com/topic/icp

xxxSMcG
Belgium
Local time: 18:13
Native speaker of:

English

Reference comments

8 hrs

Reference: US Service Providers Glossary

Reference information:
This is a glossary of terms related to different types of service providers.
[Gives definitions of: ASP, FSP, BSP, MSP, SSP, ISP, NSP, OSP, WSP, etc.]
OSP (online service provider) - term used to distinguish Internet access providers that have their own online independent content, such as America Online (AOL), from Internet service providers (ISPs) that simply connect the user directly with the Internet.
http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci558806,00...

Alison MacG
United Kingdom
Native speaker of:

English

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Jul 19, 2010 - Changes made by Transitwrite:
Created KOG entry	KudoZ term => KOG term

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