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40m avec ss 5a pour ce qui excède la détention préventive subie


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French term or phrase: 40m avec ss 5a pour ce qui excède la détention préventive subie
Can someone help to decipher this short-hand from a Belgian criminal record transcript?

Under the field marked 'Description globale' the following is shown:

"40m avec ss 5a pour ce qui excède la détention préventive subie"

Could the first part mean '40 mois avec sursis' - if so then what does 5a refer to?

If it helps, the convictions are for possession of narcotics (on three counts), and the penalties are "emprisonnement - 40MM", "emprisonnement avec sursis - 5AA" and "confiscation".

My general guess, which I hope someone could back up, is:

"40 months with a 5 year suspended sentence for that which exceeds the custody already undergone" ... if someone can suggest a slightly better way to word this, I would very much appreciate it!
Callum Walker
United Kingdom
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Summary of answers provided
440 months with a 5-year suspended sentence for that which exceeds being remanded in custody
Chris Hall
440 months, ....xxxmediamatrix
4... deducted for time already served/ spent in custody
Carol Gullidge


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43 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
... deducted for time already served/ spent in custody


Explanation:
OR
... spent in prison

I believe this (or very similar) is the commonly-used formula - at least in UK.

I presume you don't need any help with the rest

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40 months, ....


Explanation:
Answers so far (including Asker's own rendering "40 months with a 5 year suspended sentence ") tend to suggest that the 40m sentence and the 5-year suspension are different penalities, which is not correct. I'd suggest:

40m avec ss 5a pour ce qui excède la détention préventive subie
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40 months, of which the time in excess of that (already) spent in custody is suspended for 5 years

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-11-08 18:57:28 GMT)
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Alternatively:
40 months, suspended for 5 years in respect of the time not already spent in custody.

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44 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
40 months with a 5-year suspended sentence for that which exceeds being remanded in custody


Explanation:
I would ONLY alter the last part of what you had suggested.

Source:

http://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/détention préve...

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-11-08 19:00:20 GMT)
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A better answer:

40 months with a 5-year suspended sentence exceeding the time being remanded in custody

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-11-08 19:00:56 GMT)
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Final and best answer:

40 months with a 5-year suspended sentence exceeding the time having been remanded in custody

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