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English translation: days emprisonment


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French term or phrase:jours e.s. (jours emprisonnement subsidiaire)
English translation:days emprisonment
Entered by: Callum Walker
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20:20 Nov 8, 2009
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Law/Patents - Law (general) / crime, criminal record
French term or phrase: X jours e.s.
In many Belgian criminal record transcripts I am translating, I have come across the phrase "X jours e.s." when talking about fines. I am aware of the phrase 'jours d.s.' (meaning "days' salary") in the context of legal fines, but "jours e.s." is new to me. I did initially think that this was a typing error, but it has cropped up far too many times to be a typing error. Here is the full context of one of its occurences:

"Condamné le [date] par jugement contradictoire...

à:

Amende: 200,00 EUR x 5,50 = 1100,00 EUR ou 45 jours e.s. avec sursis 3 ans pour 100,00 EUR x 5,50 = 550,00 EUR ou 15 jours e.s.
D.D.C: 15 jours pour t.v.m. avec sursis 3 ans."

My assumption is that it is again linked to salary, but I cannot think what the 'e' would stand for.

If anyone can offer a translation to this in the context of Belgian criminal record transcripts then please do, I would be very grateful for any help!
Callum Walker
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:48
e.s. = emprisonnement avec sursis
Explanation:
Hello,

I think they mean you either pay the 1100.00 euros, or get a 45-day suspended sentence for three years (as long as don't break the law within those three years, no jail time; but if you, you'll go to jail for 45 days plus the time imposed for second conviction.

I know it seems like they're repeating themselves with "avec sursis 3 ans" coming right after "e.s.", but it seems right.

I hope this helps.
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MatthewLaSon
Local time: 14:48
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Summary of answers provided
3 +2e.s. = emprisonnement avec sursis
MatthewLaSon
3 +1X days and salary
Chris Hall
2 +1X days salary equivalentxxxmediamatrix
Summary of reference entries provided
e.s. = emprisonnement subsidiaire
Aude Sylvain

  

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57 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
X days and salary


Explanation:
e.s. = et salaire

Amende: 200,00 EUR x 5,50 = 1100,00 EUR ou 45 jours e.s. avec sursis 3 ans pour 100,00 EUR x 5,50 = 550,00 EUR ou 15 jours e.s.
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Fine: 200.00 EUR x 5.50 = 1100.00 EUR or 45 days and salary with a 3-year suspended sentence for 100.00 EUR x 5.50 = 550.EUR or 15 days and salary.

This may well need confirmation from a higher authority than me. Confidence level is only 50%.

Chris Hall
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:48
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agree  konungursvia: I think so too.
1 hr
  -> Many thanks - much appreciated. Kind regards, Chris.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +1
X days salary equivalent


Explanation:
e.s. --> équivalent salaire ??

Just a guess - maybe it a way of fixing the fine applied to people who have no salary, such as retired people, students, the unemployed, and possibly also the self-employed.

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-11-08 21:30:49 GMT)
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xxxmediamatrix
Local time: 16:48
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Karen Stokes: Sounds logical to me.
18 hrs
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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
e.s. = emprisonnement avec sursis


Explanation:
Hello,

I think they mean you either pay the 1100.00 euros, or get a 45-day suspended sentence for three years (as long as don't break the law within those three years, no jail time; but if you, you'll go to jail for 45 days plus the time imposed for second conviction.

I know it seems like they're repeating themselves with "avec sursis 3 ans" coming right after "e.s.", but it seems right.

I hope this helps.

MatthewLaSon
Local time: 14:48
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 405

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  mimi 254: ceci semble plus plausible: 1100.00 euros ou 45 jours d'emprisonnement avec sursis
3 hrs
  -> Merci mimi 254! Passe une bonne journée.
agree  Aude Sylvain: yes this is the meaning I think, but "s." seems to stand for "subsidiaire" / merci M., tu m'avais mise sur la voie ! Bonne journée
18 hrs
  -> Merci! Yes, "subsidiary imprisonment". Tu as bien trouvé le morceau manquant du puzzle!
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Reference comments


1 day3 hrs
Reference: e.s. = emprisonnement subsidiaire

Reference information:
http://bit.ly/jour-e-s- click on 'page 23'

Aude Sylvain
France
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