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Procédant par voie d’affirmation

English translation: The claimants/plaintiffs/applicants asserted that....


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French term or phrase:Procédant par voie d’affirmation
English translation:The claimants/plaintiffs/applicants asserted that....
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17:18 Jan 1, 2012
French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general)
French term or phrase: Procédant par voie d’affirmation
This is from a Swiss lawsuit:
Procédant par voie d’affirmation, les Demanderesses tentent d’identifier un fondement parmi les différentes stipulations du Cahier des Charges
Jeanne Zang
Local time: 14:39
The claimants/plaintiffs/applicants asserted that....
Explanation:
What is a sworn statement asserting there is sufficient ...
Answers.com > Wiki Answers > Categories > Law & Legal Issues > What is a sworn statement asserting there is sufficient evidence to go to trial called?
wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_sworn_statement_asserting... - Cached

Mais l’Angleterre n’employait-elle pas les mêmes détours de langage pour faire connaître sa pensée à la France ? N’a-t-elle pas procédé plus souvent par voie d’objection que par voie d’affirmation ? N’a-t-elle pas dit aussi que les termes de l’arrangement importaient peu, pourvu qu’ils ne fussent pas destructifs de l’indépendance et de l’intégrité de l’empire ottoman ? Lord Palmerston enfin n’a-t-il pas fait, dans une de ses dépêches les plus importantes [20], cette hypothèse, que l’on aurait attendue de tout autre plutôt que de lui ?
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AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:39
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2The claimants/plaintiffs/applicants asserted that....
AllegroTrans
3 +1Acting on mere assertion
Tom Thumb
3Advancing by means of positive statement
Conor McAuley


Discussion entries: 4





  

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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
The claimants/plaintiffs/applicants asserted that....


Explanation:
What is a sworn statement asserting there is sufficient ...
Answers.com > Wiki Answers > Categories > Law & Legal Issues > What is a sworn statement asserting there is sufficient evidence to go to trial called?
wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_sworn_statement_asserting... - Cached

Mais l’Angleterre n’employait-elle pas les mêmes détours de langage pour faire connaître sa pensée à la France ? N’a-t-elle pas procédé plus souvent par voie d’objection que par voie d’affirmation ? N’a-t-elle pas dit aussi que les termes de l’arrangement importaient peu, pourvu qu’ils ne fussent pas destructifs de l’indépendance et de l’intégrité de l’empire ottoman ? Lord Palmerston enfin n’a-t-il pas fait, dans une de ses dépêches les plus importantes [20], cette hypothèse, que l’on aurait attendue de tout autre plutôt que de lui ?

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:39
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 567
Grading comment
Thanks!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne
42 mins
  -> many thanks Nikki
agree  gallagy2: yes, and Happy New Year
2 hrs
  -> many thanks & Happy New Year!
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17 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Advancing by means of positive statement


Explanation:
Awkwardly worded, but perhaps closer to the original than AT's answer, the gist of which I agree with

Regarding the rhetorical process involved -- positive as opposed to negative

Conor McAuley
France
Local time: 20:39
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 74

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  AllegroTrans: it's so awkwardly worded that it is completely unnatural English, and would never be used
2 hrs
  -> Fair enough
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1 day3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Acting on mere assertion


Explanation:
namely unsubstantiated averment, without any supporting cogent evidence other than e.g. pay slips.

cf. unsubstantiiert vortragen in DE

IATE:

FR simple affirmation, non étayée par des éléments de preuve pertinents
EN simple assertion, unsubstantiated by relevant evidence




Example sentence(s):
  • statue néanmoins au fond pour faire droit à ces demandes en procédant par voie d'affirmation

    Reference: http://lexinter.net/JPTXT/non_declaration_de_la_cessation_de...
    Reference: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/averment
Tom Thumb
Local time: 20:39
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 311

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Alain Mouchel
13 hrs
  -> Merci!
neutral  AllegroTrans: assertion yes, but I think "mere" is stretching it - maybe it was substantiated; "simple" does not appear in the French text
3 days20 hrs
  -> If the quote is from the Defendants - unspecified by the asker- then the labelling as an assertion or averment is meant sardonically. Googling the phrase throws up this irony of 'mere' puff.
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