English translation: management/administrative circuit (formal) OR loop (casual)
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French term or phrase:
circuit de gestion
English translation:
management/administrative circuit (formal) OR loop (casual)
French to English translations [PRO] Tech/Engineering - Management / facilities management
French term or phrase:circuit de gestion
Is there an accepted translation for this term? If not, creative ideas would be welcomed.
"... validation et optimisation du circuit de gestion, traitement et suivi des demandes d’interventions "
This is part of a list,, so there isn't any detail of what exactly is involved. However, it concerns requests for intervention by a company providing facilities management in an office environment.
I think you are partially right, as the term "management" in English can also have a similar, broader meaning. I have certainly been looking at alternatives using "administration". I think that there are a number of possible translations; what I needed to know was whether there was an obviously correct candidate, and it seems not.
One relevant consideration is, I think the term 'gestion' in French is not 100% the same as management in English, but is broader and also includes processes and procedures as well as management in the sense of 'direction'. I am not expressing this well. Maybe some one more articulate can say what I mean.
All the references that I could find were technica
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That is what I would call it informally, but informal is the wrong register here.
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Management Department
Explanation: The Management Department encompasses four major areas of specialization:
* Strategic Management emphasizes forecasting, planning and control, allocating resources, the appraisal of competition, and implementation strategies.
* Multinational Management focuses on operating in worldwide and heterogeneous national environments under conditions of economic and political risk.
* Human Resource and Organizational Management explores individual and group behavior and how these dynamics influence an organization's performance and structure
Explanation: I think this is the term used, but not confident.
All I can find by way of confirmation is this from google:
"Le demandeur peut suivre le traitement de sa demande depuis sa prise en charge jusqu'à la clôture de l'intervention. Circuit de gestion (workflow) ..."
joehlindsay Local time: 02:56 Meets criteria Specializes in field Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 3
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Asker: Thanks joe. This is the most likely so far.
1 hr confidence:
management area/compass/line/spiral/ambit
Explanation: Using an online thesaurus produces some of the above
Just ideas....
AllegroTrans United Kingdom Local time: 08:56 Meets criteria Works in field Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 4
Explanation: Most of what I find online for ''intervention'' has to do with social or medical interventions. But the term ''intervention cycle'', describing a process, could maybe be borrowed for a facilities management context. Here's an example:
Sample Intervention Cycle
This intervention cycle provides a model for planning, designing, and implementing a comprehensive intervention system. It recognizes that student support is ongoing and cyclical, following a process of screening, diagnosis, instruction, and monitoring as described below. http://www.scoe.org/pub/htdocs/intervention-cycle.html
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Another:
This course focuses on methodologies for intervening in organizations. Interventions may concern one or more phases of the intervention cycle (diagnosis, design, change and evaluation).
Sharing information, resources, and common objectives, such coalitions can influence, even drive, all phases of the intervention cycle: planning, implementation, and evaluation.
clain Local time: 03:56 Does not meet criteria Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 8
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Asker: Thanks Clanola. I am not sure whether "cycle" isn't too connected with the idea of time. I know bicycles aren't, but cycles in the sense of things that go round might be. It is also a cycle of managing the interventions, so I am not sure about omitting the word "management".
Explanation: The first thing that came to mind on seeing the question was a phrase including 'loop'. My only doubt swas (still is...) the best choice for 'gestion'.
Until, that was, I scrolled down the discussion box and discovered that BD thinks that 'loop' is too informal :(
That said, 'circuit' in the ST doesn't only relate to 'gestion'. The phrase is 'circuit de gestion, traitement et suivi ...' which is, ideally, a closed-loop process. Like here on proz when we submit a support ticket, get a response from staff (or not, as the case may be...), they fix the problem (or not...), they close the ticket and we are invited to comment on our degree of satisfaction with the response - and all that information remains on the record as a source of ideas next time the same problem occurs (that's the theory, anyway...).
IOW, in a well-engineered intervention call-out system there is, indeeed, a "loop". If the cap fits, wear it :)
xxxmediamatrix Local time: 03:56 Does not meet criteria Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 8
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Asker: Thanks mm. Yes, it could be taken in this sentence that "circuit" relates to all three stages. However, "circuit de gestion" occurs elsewhere on its own (with less context), so I want a single cap to fit both. I have translated "traitement" as "processing". I like your analogy!
Reference: European Union Document; "Management Circuit"
Reference information: Not necessarily the best translation, but there is precedent.
Example sentence(s):
The Departmental Council undertakes to respect the aid ceiling in the rural development regulation. It has only decided not to make use of aid scheme N 110/07 (PIDIL) on management circuit issues
Pablo Strauss Canada Does not meet criteria Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 4
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Asker: I think that you and Bourth have convinced me. However, unless you post this as an answer, I can't award you points.
4 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: circuit for management , processing and follow-up
Reference information: Personally I have no arguments with a literal translation. It might not be a standard English turn of phrase but it is immediately understandable, even if its only proponents seem to be translators of Europeanese. It's quite common in French, but it is surely a neologism driven by the computer age. Why should we not be equally chébran?
Overviews in May 2008, the overviews should be circulated to the ERDF Managing ...... financial management (efficiency of the management circuit and ...
ec.europa.eu/regional_policy/sources/.../wp11report.pdf
financial management circuit will be prepared in early 2010. A system of quality checks of the accounting system will be developed in early 2010 to verify ...
ec.europa.eu/atwork/synthesis/aar/doc/erc_ea_annexes.pdf
DG ECFIN is applying a centralised financial management circuit. The Financial Regulation (Art. ... Visit. Annual Activity Report 2007 DG BUDGET ... www.pulse-sheffield.co.uk/business/id/1036667
A circuit is not the same as a "system". "Circuit" is more "graphic". To my mind, at least, a system is a big ball of tangled wires. A circuit is a route, a line or a series of lines presented as straight stretches with right-angled changes of direction that represents that tangled ball. To understand how a process of management, processing, and follow-up works, a circuit is easier to follow than a system.
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Indeed. It's true that for things like motor racing a circuit does indeed go like the wheels on the bus, but I think more of electrical wiring circuits. While here too you get electricity going out, from a battery say, then back to complete the circuit, I still see it as a linear function. To me, what is important in a "management circuit" is what happens at - to take up the motoring analogy - what happens at kilometre 1, km2, km3, and whether you've done what you set out to do when you get to the end of the track (limited by time).
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This chapter describes the ADMINISTRATIVE CIRCUITS of the paper fallback system applicable when EMCS may become unavailable, corresponding to fallback solution elements, mainly FB03 - Revert to manual with subsequent input and secondarily FB02 - Revert to manual without subsequent input. [ ... ]
Therefore, it will be the responsibility of the consignor to inform the MSA of dispatch before the beginning of the movement of the unavailability of EMCS and use the relevant FALLBACK ADMINISTRATIVE CIRCUIT depicted below for submission of the AAD and any other business purpose, and to re-issue as soon as the application is available again the equivalent electronic operations. [ ... ]
3 Submission of AAD – FALLBACK ADMINISTRATIVE CIRCUIT
[shows not a circle (A-to-A) but an A-to-B movement] www.revenue.ie/en/tax/excise/emcs/frs.doc
and practices were to continue providing a supply channel between Tokyo and Oahu until an ALTERNATE ADMINISTRATIVE CIRCUIT was established on Guam. ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=1603441255...
xxxBourth France Does not meet criteria Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 36
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Asker: Thanks Bourth. I think that the important thing about a circuit is that it is circular in the sense of something that you keep going round - even if it has straight stretches. I have now come up with "management cycle", which seems to catch that aspect. (No points for anybody replicating that as an answer.) However, cycle has an association with time and could be considered as a weekly, monthly or annual occurrence, while circuit might be thought of as more physical or mechanical and so, perhaps more satisfactory.
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