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French: à l’échelle 1

English translation: full scale/life-size







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French term or phrase:à l’échelle 1
English translation:full scale/life-size
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Marketing - Manufacturing / Car manufacture
French term or phrase: à l’échelle 1
Seemingly French marketing speak...

Here is the entire sentence, from a press release about a prize-winning car design, soon to be in production:

En effet, l’atelier du Centre de style (marque X)fabriquera le concept car X à l’échelle 1 afin de l’exposer sur le stand X du prochain salon de Francfort, en septembre 2005.

Is it to do with production-run numbers perhaps? If so, is this 'echelle 1' unique to car manufacturing or would it be any kind of production? And does anyone know the equivalent term or an accurate rendering in English? Thanks
French2English
United Kingdom
full scale, life-size
Explanation:
i.e. it's not a scale model.

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Note added at 7 mins (2005-03-01 20:42:56 GMT)
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Applies to any kind of production.

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Note added at 12 mins (2005-03-01 20:47:13 GMT)
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RenShape modelling boards have been used to build the first Sports Utility Vehicle ever developed by Alfa Romeo. The concept car was made by Italy’s leading automotive model makers, Stola S.p.A in Just 20 days.


The project began with Alfa Romeo’s design team providing sketches and digital data for the vehicle to modelmakers at Stola. Initially a 1:4 scale model was produced and used by the Alfa design team for evaluation and assessment. A full-scale model was then machined from RenShape BM5185 modelling boards
[http://cgi.johnburn.co.uk/case.php?caseid=1]

The front of the car would also be given a makeover... This is the first full-scale
model of the Java, showing its vetically-stacked twin headlights which ...
www.austin-rover.co.uk/rrprotof.htm

The full scale model barely differs from its predecessor ... In the field of automobile
styling (design, interior ... prototype parts and prototype car building) CEDEA ...
www.cedea.cz/en/projekty_porsche.php

were to complex to use the real planes, so they made a full scale model out of ...
www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Makeup/4303/truelies.html

l\'Espace is a new space museum with a lifesize model of the Ariane 5 spaceship and a replica of Mir. It also has a planetarium. (To get there by car: take the ...
www.worldsapartreview.com/toulouse.htm

September 2000 to elect a futuristic vehicle of the ... move in the history of car manufacturing, brought ... Peugeot who will produce a lifesize prototype.The concept ...
www.newcarnet.co.uk/NCN_406_newsarchiveitem.html

MegaRail Transportation Systems Completes Initial Tests of First Full Scale
Prototype MicroRail PAT Car. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE. FORT ...
www.megarail.com/pr/library/2002/oct/25prototype

The final stage of this design development phase was to use the ICEM Surf model
data to machine a full-scale prototype model of the car for showing at the ...
www.cadserver.co.uk/common/ viewer/archive/2004/Jan/23/feature12.phtm
Selected response from:

Bourth
France
Note from asker to answerer
Yep - looks spot on to me. I wanted to make sure I was interpreting the meaning of 'echelle' correctly, i.e. in terms of the size of the thing - as opposed to the scale of the production of it. Thanks.
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Summary of answers provided
5 +7full scale, life-sizeBourth
41:1 scalexxxCMJ_Trans
5 -2as a Tier 1 supplier
Jane Lamb-Ruiz


  

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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +7
full scale, life-size

Explanation:
i.e. it's not a scale model.

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Note added at 7 mins (2005-03-01 20:42:56 GMT)
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Applies to any kind of production.

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Note added at 12 mins (2005-03-01 20:47:13 GMT)
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RenShape modelling boards have been used to build the first Sports Utility Vehicle ever developed by Alfa Romeo. The concept car was made by Italy’s leading automotive model makers, Stola S.p.A in Just 20 days.


The project began with Alfa Romeo’s design team providing sketches and digital data for the vehicle to modelmakers at Stola. Initially a 1:4 scale model was produced and used by the Alfa design team for evaluation and assessment. A full-scale model was then machined from RenShape BM5185 modelling boards
[http://cgi.johnburn.co.uk/case.php?caseid=1]

The front of the car would also be given a makeover... This is the first full-scale
model of the Java, showing its vetically-stacked twin headlights which ...
www.austin-rover.co.uk/rrprotof.htm

The full scale model barely differs from its predecessor ... In the field of automobile
styling (design, interior ... prototype parts and prototype car building) CEDEA ...
www.cedea.cz/en/projekty_porsche.php

were to complex to use the real planes, so they made a full scale model out of ...
www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Makeup/4303/truelies.html

l\'Espace is a new space museum with a lifesize model of the Ariane 5 spaceship and a replica of Mir. It also has a planetarium. (To get there by car: take the ...
www.worldsapartreview.com/toulouse.htm

September 2000 to elect a futuristic vehicle of the ... move in the history of car manufacturing, brought ... Peugeot who will produce a lifesize prototype.The concept ...
www.newcarnet.co.uk/NCN_406_newsarchiveitem.html

MegaRail Transportation Systems Completes Initial Tests of First Full Scale
Prototype MicroRail PAT Car. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE. FORT ...
www.megarail.com/pr/library/2002/oct/25prototype

The final stage of this design development phase was to use the ICEM Surf model
data to machine a full-scale prototype model of the car for showing at the ...
www.cadserver.co.uk/common/ viewer/archive/2004/Jan/23/feature12.phtm


Bourth
France
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 132
Note from asker to answerer
Yep - looks spot on to me. I wanted to make sure I was interpreting the meaning of 'echelle' correctly, i.e. in terms of the size of the thing - as opposed to the scale of the production of it. Thanks.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree Merit: absolutely
1 min

agree Gayle Wallimann: Yes indeed.
4 mins

agree Connor
5 mins

agree David Goward
55 mins

agree Marnen Laibow-Koser: Sure looks right.
1 hr

agree Tony M: Yes, of course, a scale of 1:1 /// Well, when it comes down to a question of SCALE... ;-)))
1 hr
  -> One-on-one, voire plus ... some of us have one-on-one-track minds!

agree xxxPhilippe C.
3 hrs
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27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -2
as a Tier 1 supplier

Explanation:
isn't a concept car always full sized?? Although the sentence may grammatically mean this, another meaning also comes to mind:

In automotive manufacturing, there are three Tiers of Suppliers:
Tier I, Tier 2 and Tier 3.

Each Tier of Supplier has a different function. You can look that up. Tier 3, for example,make the electric systems or seatbelts.

They might mean here that the car is being manufactured by a Tier 1 supplier...the only reason I say this is because I have never seen a concept car that was no full-sized..though maybe they are not always built to scale.

See this example of Tier 1:

"And the tier-one suppliers are good at putting electronics in the car. ...
The new system is the focal point of a 2004 Lincoln Aviator concept car that ...
www.automotivedesignline.com/showArticle. jhtml?printableArticle=true&articleId=49400364 - 29k - Cached - Similar pages

Internet World Magazine :: Internet World
... for dedicated "Tier One" suppliers to deliver whole sections of a car to an
... were putting the finishing touches on their Cadillac Evoq concept car, ...
www.iw.com/magazine.php?inc=030100/3.01interview.html - 30k - Cached - Similar pages

Siemens VDO Automotive Provides Diesel Expertise on Innovative ...
... global automaker's Mercury Meta One diesel-electric Hybrid concept currently
on display ... Siemens VDO Automotive is a tier-one supplier of automotive ...
www.theautochannel.com/news/2005/01/13/003507.html - 10k - Cached - Similar pages

AutoInteriorShow.com
... OEMs and Tier One Suppliers rely on The Auto Interiors Show more than ever to
... with by remaining at the forefront of design concepts and innovations. ...
autointeriors.com/ - 24k - Cached - Similar pages



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Note added at 1 hr 5 mins (2005-03-01 21:40:13 GMT)
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Ok..it seems they do make small models of cars at all sorts of scales...but normally, a concept car from a [underline] manufacturer [end underline] would be full size in English, wouldn\'t it?



Jane Lamb-Ruiz
United States
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 71

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree Marnen Laibow-Koser: Doesn't seem to fit the context.
1 hr

disagree Tony M: Sorry, Jane, but 1:1 scale is all it means
1 hr

neutral Bourth: I agree it would be pretty daft to display a concept car other than at full scale at a motor show would be pretty daft, but it simply has to refer to the scale here.
3 hrs
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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
1:1 scale

Explanation:
other way of saying full-size

xxxCMJ_Trans
France
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 58
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