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chute de véhicule

English translation: falling vehicle detectors


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French term or phrase:chute de v�hicule
English translation:falling vehicle detectors
Entered by: Huw Watkins
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00:24 Feb 10, 2006
French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Mechanics / Mech Engineering / Railway signals
French term or phrase: chute de véhicule
Les informations fournies par les détecteurs de chute de véhicule sur la voie, les détecteurs de vent, les DBC ainsi que les détecteurs propres à la sécurité du tunnel (détecteurs de fumées, d'incendie -ponctuels et / ou linéaires -détecteurs de présence, etc
Huw Watkins
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:46
post-grading
Explanation:
This one I am sure of - I have actually seen these things, done TGV presentations with visiting delegations, etc.
Since on high speed lines there are no level crossings, there are lots of bridges and viaducts and lots of cuttings. Road bridges often cross the railway lines. SNCF realised that one potential problem was road accidents with vehicles plunging off the bridge on to the railway line. Think of that dreaful accident in the UK not so long ago when a driver wet to sleep and ended up causing a railway accident by driving off the bridge on to the track.

So they designed a system that originally consisted of a sort of metal meshing that is electrically connected and linked to a detector (it may have evolved since). If a vehicle or other heavy weight falls on this mesh it breaks an electrical contact and sets off an alarm, which will transmit an instruction to the onboard signalling system to halt all oncoming trains.
We usually called them "falling vehicle detectors" since there was no "official" UK word.
FYI: the wind detectors are because of potential problems of side wides that can cause excessive uplift in the problems with power supply; the DBC are déctecteurs de boîtes chaudes (hot box detectors) for the axle-boxes to ensure the axles/bogies do not overheat

HTH

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Note added at 2006-02-10 08:44:52 (GMT) Post-grading
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excessive upfilt and problems - sorry - I am still half asleep

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Note added at 2006-02-10 09:02:31 (GMT) Post-grading
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the points issue is irrelevant - I offer you this because you were barking up the wrong tree.
PS - you should wait before grading to see what else may turn up - I suspect you had already made up your mind and took the first answer that confirmed your thinking - a salutory lesson perhaps to remember always to keep an open mind??????
Not wishing to preach but - been there, done that!

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Note added at 2006-02-11 21:45:15 (GMT) Post-grading
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I see that I wrote \"wides\" when I meant to write \"winds\" - brain working faster than fingers again
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xxxCMJ_Trans
Local time: 20:46
Grading comment
Thanks.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +2post-gradingxxxCMJ_Trans
4 -1train derailment, train jumping (off) the tracks, running off the tracksxxxBourth


Discussion entries: 7





  

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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
post-grading


Explanation:
This one I am sure of - I have actually seen these things, done TGV presentations with visiting delegations, etc.
Since on high speed lines there are no level crossings, there are lots of bridges and viaducts and lots of cuttings. Road bridges often cross the railway lines. SNCF realised that one potential problem was road accidents with vehicles plunging off the bridge on to the railway line. Think of that dreaful accident in the UK not so long ago when a driver wet to sleep and ended up causing a railway accident by driving off the bridge on to the track.

So they designed a system that originally consisted of a sort of metal meshing that is electrically connected and linked to a detector (it may have evolved since). If a vehicle or other heavy weight falls on this mesh it breaks an electrical contact and sets off an alarm, which will transmit an instruction to the onboard signalling system to halt all oncoming trains.
We usually called them "falling vehicle detectors" since there was no "official" UK word.
FYI: the wind detectors are because of potential problems of side wides that can cause excessive uplift in the problems with power supply; the DBC are déctecteurs de boîtes chaudes (hot box detectors) for the axle-boxes to ensure the axles/bogies do not overheat

HTH

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Note added at 2006-02-10 08:44:52 (GMT) Post-grading
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excessive upfilt and problems - sorry - I am still half asleep

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Note added at 2006-02-10 09:02:31 (GMT) Post-grading
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the points issue is irrelevant - I offer you this because you were barking up the wrong tree.
PS - you should wait before grading to see what else may turn up - I suspect you had already made up your mind and took the first answer that confirmed your thinking - a salutory lesson perhaps to remember always to keep an open mind??????
Not wishing to preach but - been there, done that!

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Note added at 2006-02-11 21:45:15 (GMT) Post-grading
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I see that I wrote \"wides\" when I meant to write \"winds\" - brain working faster than fingers again

xxxCMJ_Trans
Local time: 20:46
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 62
Grading comment
Thanks.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  xxxdf49f
2 hrs
  -> and I thoroughly agree on the "fair play" thing even though the points are academic

agree  xxxBourth: I am pleased to stand corrected! Lessons learnt (technical, and of one's fallibility, etc.!)
4 hrs
  -> I don't like putting disagrees but I owed it to "asker"
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24 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
chute de véhicule
train derailment, train jumping (off) the tracks, running off the tracks


Explanation:
I think we can assume that if a train derails it falls (off the tracks) onto the bed, ballast, etc.

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Note added at 28 mins (2006-02-10 00:52:32 GMT)
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The derailment detector recognizes when an axle has become derailed by registering and evaluating the impact of the wheels on the sleepers. The driver then receives a warning signal or the emergency brake is automatically applied, reducing consequential damage caused by the derailment

http://www.knorr-bremse.com/frameset_templates/schiene/frm_p...

Maybe "wagon", "car" or, as here, "axle" instead of "train", which would be autrement plus catastrophique.


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Note added at 28 mins (2006-02-10 00:53:24 GMT)
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Mind you, "derailment detector" sums it all up.

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Note added at 12 hrs (2006-02-10 13:17:32 GMT) Post-grading
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Forget that. I think the business about road vehicles falling onto the tracks is right (I assume the reference to tunnels is unrelated, directly).

To be honest, "véhicule" did bother me, but I assumed it was used to cover different types of "rail vehicle", and I envisaged this system in a tunnel as well ...

xxxBourth
Local time: 20:46
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 802

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  gad
17 mins

disagree  xxxCMJ_Trans: sorry - this has nothing to do with the train derailing - unless because it hits a vehicle that has fallen on the track
7 hrs
  -> Don't be sorry! You're undoubtedly right.

disagree  xxxdf49f: with CMJ and David /// et bravo pour votre fair-play (ça nous arrive à tous/toutes de nous planter, no big deal!) - bonne soirée :) // ;-) :)
10 hrs
  -> I've never claimed to be infallible (even if secretly I like to think I am ;-) ) But do you HAVE TO rub it in? ;-)
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