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English translation: reference photograph / image


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French term or phrase:cliché de référence
English translation:reference photograph / image
Entered by: Tony M
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17:03 Jan 7, 2012
French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Mechanics / Mech Engineering / Paint systems
French term or phrase: cliché de référence
This is from specifications for painting aerial sections of pipework:

Here's the context:
"La détermination du degré du soin qui caractérise la qualité de la préparation de surface se fait par comparaison à des clichés de référence édités par Office National d'Homologation des Garanties de Peinture Industrielle et donnés à titre informatif en Annexe de la norme NF EN ISO 8501-1."

Sounds to me like some kind of template or comparison sample...
Mark Bossanyi
Bulgaria
Local time: 21:50
reference photographs / images
Explanation:
Unless there is any reason to think otherwise, cliché usually refers to a photographic print; in this case, perhaps reproduced in print, and for once, 'image' might be the best solution

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Note added at 2 hrs (2012-01-07 19:42:33 GMT)
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Just to clarify: I don't doubt for one instant that these would of course be originally photographic images; but since 'cliché' can have the meaning of an actual photographic print (tirage), I think it's important to acknowledge that in any published document, these are unlikely to still be produced (very expensively!) as tipped-in actual photographic prints.

Note that 'cliché' is also used for 'plate' in the more general printing sense of 'an illustration'.
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Tony M
France
Local time: 20:50
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Summary of answers provided
4 +4reference photographs / images
Tony M
3 +1photographic reference standardliz askew


  

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30 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
photographic reference standard


Explanation:
Notice persiennes ferasca 049B.qxd
www.fenetres-philippe.info/.../france fermetur... - Translate this page
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
en importance le cliché 7 (RE 3) de l'échelle européenne de degré d'enrouillement pour peinture anti-rouille (code D.G.O.12 édité par l'OHGPI). Garantie sur la ...

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:yXo0bBB6iFwJ:www....


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Note added at 31 mins (2012-01-07 17:35:48 GMT)
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( I ) GENERAL - National Paints
www.nationalpaints.com/SpecificationsFiles/Category_9_File_...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
SA-1 : Light blast cleaning to remove mill scale, rust and paint. ST-3 : Very .... All these standards contain photographic references. Among all, the ... 9. 0.03. Re 2. 0.5. Ri 1. 0.05. 8. 0.1. Re 3. 1.0. Ri 2. 0.5. 7. 0.3. Re 4. 3.0. Ri 3. 1.0. 6. 1.0 ...
[PDF]
2-1 SP Com.indd
raschtacoatings.com.au/docs/surface-preparation/Number%203.pdf
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
SP 5, 6, 7, and 10) and three levels of flash rust and describes three levels of non-visible surface ... Standard reference photographs depict previously rusted steel. (painted and ..... painting, surfaces must be re-cleaned to meet contract clean- ...

liz askew
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:50
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 22
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks for your help!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Isabelle17
3 mins
  -> Thank you! Happy New Year to you!
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19 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
reference photographs / images


Explanation:
Unless there is any reason to think otherwise, cliché usually refers to a photographic print; in this case, perhaps reproduced in print, and for once, 'image' might be the best solution

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Note added at 2 hrs (2012-01-07 19:42:33 GMT)
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Just to clarify: I don't doubt for one instant that these would of course be originally photographic images; but since 'cliché' can have the meaning of an actual photographic print (tirage), I think it's important to acknowledge that in any published document, these are unlikely to still be produced (very expensively!) as tipped-in actual photographic prints.

Note that 'cliché' is also used for 'plate' in the more general printing sense of 'an illustration'.

Tony M
France
Local time: 20:50
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 453
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, Tony!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  liz askew: indeed, but they are photographs. Indeed context is everything.
13 mins
  -> Thanks, Liz! However, they are only photographs in some contexts; I've seen plenty of others where they aren't; all depends if it's part of the specific standard or just some industrial doc.

agree  chris collister: I'd be surprised if they were photos: all printers vary, intrinsically and depending on paper and profile, and dye inks fade. Image would be a safer bet.//I shd have said "photographic print". Of course an archival print would originally be a photo
43 mins
  -> Thanks, Chris! I feel sure they are of course photos, but i doubt it would be logistically feasible to reproduce many copies of them for inclusion in a published standard, for example.

agree  kashew: http://www.scribd.com/doc/51351371/UTF-8-ISO-8501-1-2007 confirms it bilingually.
1 hr
  -> Thanks, J! And that's even the right standard!

agree  B D Finch
19 hrs
  -> Thanks, Barbara!
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