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chirurgie de recours

English translation: referral surgery/ surgery by referral / surgery in a referral hospital


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French term or phrase:chirurgie de recours
English translation:referral surgery/ surgery by referral / surgery in a referral hospital
Entered by: Karen Tucker
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11:42 Nov 23, 2009
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Medical - Medical: Health Care / cancer treatment
French term or phrase: chirurgie de recours
From the research I've done, this seems to be advanced surgery after previous operations have failed, but I'm having trouble finding the exact term. The definitions for secondary and tertiary don't seem to match, but "reoperation" does seem a possibility as evidenced in the following, even though this refers to orthopedic surgery (I did find "reoperation" used for cancer surgery as well). Thanks in advance, Karen

La pose de prothèses de hanche et de genou concerne chaque année respectivement 110 000 et 35 000 patients, et constitue la principale activité des chirurgiens orthopédistes. Implantée par un spécialiste expérimenté, une prothèse de hanche a une durée de vie d'une quinzaine d'années au minimum, permettant à la plupart des opérés de retrouver mobilité et indépendance. Toutefois, le descellement de prothèse demeure la principale complication, certes rare, mais nécessitant une **réintervention** (reoperation). La plupart des cliniques classées dans le haut de notre palmarès développent plus particulièrement cette **chirurgie de recours** très délicate, réservée aux chirurgiens les plus adroits. Pour certains, cela représente jusqu'à 25 % de leur activité.
Karen Tucker
United States
Local time: 20:44
salvage surgery
Explanation:
If we could have your exact sentence in French and not one referring to orthopedics it might be helpful.

Reoperation in orthopedics is called "revision surgery".

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http://www.answers.com/topic/salvage-surgery-in-medicine

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Note added at 34 mins (2009-11-23 12:17:08 GMT)
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here's a definition of "revision surgery"
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/revision surgery

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Note added at 41 mins (2009-11-23 12:24:44 GMT)
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http://www.parhtage.sante.fr/re7/mip/doc.nsf/VDoc/62F72CA00B...$FILE/Centre%20Proximit%C3%A9%20Chirurgie%20p%C3%A9diatrique.pdf

surgery by referral - transfer from other hospitals?

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Note added at 43 mins (2009-11-23 12:26:28 GMT)
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[PDF] Niveaux de Soins et GHM - [ Translate this page ]File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
La liste de Rhône Alpes des GHM de chirurgie avec une différentiation en chirurgie de proximité et de recours a également été adaptée pour la version 7 des ...
www3.univ-lille2.fr/jfim2005/papiers/44-Jay-jfim2005.pdf

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Note added at 47 mins (2009-11-23 12:30:41 GMT)
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[PDF] Traumatic and nontraumatic coma in children in the referral ...File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Fahad Hospital, which is the only referral centre for AlHasa region, ... Fahad, seul centre hospitalier de recours pour la région dAlHasa en Arabie ...
www.emro.who.int/emhj/1303/13_3_2007_608_614.pdf

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Note added at 5 hrs (2009-11-23 16:58:37 GMT)
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This is the link in my note at 41 mins

http://tinyurl.com/yjgyhkz

Le principe de cette classification
· Centre de chirurgie pédiatrique de recours
· Centre de chirurgie pédiatrique spécialisé
· Centre de chirurgie pédiatrique de proximité
suppose une contractualisation pragmatique et formalisée entre ces trois types de structure = un
avis doit pouvoir être demandé à tout moment au centre spécialisé ou de recours concernant la prise
en charge chirurgicale d'un enfant (appel téléphonique, transmission d'images,…)
Cette liaison permanente au travers d'un véritable réseau régional de chirurgie pédiatrique doit
être connue des professionnels et du grand public.
Selected response from:

SJLD
Local time: 02:44
Grading comment
Mystery solved! I finally had the agency ask the client since there were two distinct possibilities and here's the response: "La « chirurgie de recours » se refère au transfert à un hopital de recours ; c'est-à-dire avec l’expertise ad hoc." But I also appreciate all the suggestions for the term's other meaning. Thank you! Karen
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1salvage surgery
SJLD
4 +1reoperation
Drmanu49
4last recource or last resort
Stephanie Ezrol
4 -1Computer assisted surgeryS halder
3 -1reconstructive surgery
Chris Hall
Summary of reference entries provided
Definition of "chirurgie de recours"
Chris Hall

Discussion entries: 7





  

Answers


22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Computer assisted surgery


Explanation:
G hits available on: Computer assisted surgery for total knee arthroplasty.

S halder
Local time: 02:44
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 11

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Cetacea: This has absolutely nothing to do with CAS. G hits are available on a number of subjects...
35 mins
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22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
reoperation


Explanation:
seems likely in this case.

Drmanu49
Local time: 02:44
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 484

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Cetacea: or revision surgery. See e.g. http://www.chu-rennes.fr/sections/le_chu_en_bref/presentatio...
33 mins
  -> Thank you.

neutral  liz askew: Well, FWIW this is how I translated this the other day regarding failure of a contraceptive implant device, I hope I was right:)/I have withdrawn my full "agree" mainly because I do not want to rock the boat!
1 hr
  -> That's OK Liz thank you.
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25 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
reconstructive surgery


Explanation:
Definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstructive_surgery

Chris Hall
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:44
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Cetacea: Hip or knee prostheses do not require reconstructive surgery.//Take a closer look at this page: Drmanu and SJLD have already done that.
33 mins
  -> Many thanks for your kind words - much appreciated. If you are so sure that your answer (revision surgery) is correct, would it not be helpful to put it forward?
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24 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
salvage surgery


Explanation:
If we could have your exact sentence in French and not one referring to orthopedics it might be helpful.

Reoperation in orthopedics is called "revision surgery".

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Note added at 26 mins (2009-11-23 12:09:40 GMT)
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http://www.answers.com/topic/salvage-surgery-in-medicine

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Note added at 34 mins (2009-11-23 12:17:08 GMT)
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here's a definition of "revision surgery"
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/revision surgery

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Note added at 41 mins (2009-11-23 12:24:44 GMT)
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http://www.parhtage.sante.fr/re7/mip/doc.nsf/VDoc/62F72CA00B...$FILE/Centre%20Proximit%C3%A9%20Chirurgie%20p%C3%A9diatrique.pdf

surgery by referral - transfer from other hospitals?

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Note added at 43 mins (2009-11-23 12:26:28 GMT)
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[PDF] Niveaux de Soins et GHM - [ Translate this page ]File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
La liste de Rhône Alpes des GHM de chirurgie avec une différentiation en chirurgie de proximité et de recours a également été adaptée pour la version 7 des ...
www3.univ-lille2.fr/jfim2005/papiers/44-Jay-jfim2005.pdf

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Note added at 47 mins (2009-11-23 12:30:41 GMT)
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[PDF] Traumatic and nontraumatic coma in children in the referral ...File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Fahad Hospital, which is the only referral centre for AlHasa region, ... Fahad, seul centre hospitalier de recours pour la région dAlHasa en Arabie ...
www.emro.who.int/emhj/1303/13_3_2007_608_614.pdf

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Note added at 5 hrs (2009-11-23 16:58:37 GMT)
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This is the link in my note at 41 mins

http://tinyurl.com/yjgyhkz

Le principe de cette classification
· Centre de chirurgie pédiatrique de recours
· Centre de chirurgie pédiatrique spécialisé
· Centre de chirurgie pédiatrique de proximité
suppose une contractualisation pragmatique et formalisée entre ces trois types de structure = un
avis doit pouvoir être demandé à tout moment au centre spécialisé ou de recours concernant la prise
en charge chirurgicale d'un enfant (appel téléphonique, transmission d'images,…)
Cette liaison permanente au travers d'un véritable réseau régional de chirurgie pédiatrique doit
être connue des professionnels et du grand public.

SJLD
Local time: 02:44
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 305
Grading comment
Mystery solved! I finally had the agency ask the client since there were two distinct possibilities and here's the response: "La « chirurgie de recours » se refère au transfert à un hopital de recours ; c'est-à-dire avec l’expertise ad hoc." But I also appreciate all the suggestions for the term's other meaning. Thank you! Karen
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks for the answer, SJLD. The sentence with the term is in the discussion entry above; here it is again: "Structurer la chirurgie de recours et les plateaux techniques de radiologie interventionnelle et de cryobiologie." (This is a list of recommendations so there's not a lot of context.)

Asker: I think you might be right. They talk a lot about "organisations hospitalières interrégionales de recours" et also "soins de proximité" and here I'm translating "recours" as "referral," so "chirurgie de recours" might simply be shorthand for surgery performed at hospitals to which patients are referred outside their local area. It was confusing because there is indeed a type of cancer surgery called "chirurgie de recours."


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Cetacea: I still think we're dealing with revision surgery here.//I realize that, but "revision surgery" as a service or specialty could be structured as well.
39 mins
  -> you've been misled by the text in the question - the sentence to be translated is in the discussion and in the first note from asker here^^

agree  elias melhem: revision surgery it is!
1 day21 hrs
  -> thanks :-)
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
last recource or last resort


Explanation:
Even though the word last is not there in the French, I think that is the meaning. A difficult and risky surgery you try when all other efforts have failed.

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Note added at 15 hrs (2009-11-24 02:53:17 GMT)
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I meant to say, "last resort surgery." "last recourse surgery" is used in English, but rarely. "Final resort surgery," is also used, but last is used most often by a google count.

Example sentence(s):
  • ‘Last resort’ surgery holds promise for shoulder patients
  • It is important to note that surgical intervention for a TMJ problem is most often a last resort. Surgery is usually the last resort treatment.

    https://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/reporter/index.html?ID=4546
    Reference: http://www.markyamamotodental-tmj.com/TMJ/tmj-surgery.php
Stephanie Ezrol
United States
Local time: 20:44
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Reference comments


3 mins
Reference: Definition of "chirurgie de recours"

Reference information:
"Enfin, la chirurgie de recours comprend la chirurgie pelvienne lourde, les rares indications de greffe hépatique (hépato-carcinomes) ou pulmonaires (carcinomes bronchiolo-alvéolaires), les résections péritonéales étendues (pratiquées dans le service de chirurgie du CHLS)".


    Reference: http://www.chu-lyon.fr/internet/rech_exp/expertise/cancer/ca...
Chris Hall
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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