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Explanation: "Recent work on the experience of depression as a cultural phenomenon and .... It showed how a lived experience, such as depression, was interpreted by an ..."
psychsocgerontology.oxfordjournals.org/content/62/6/S392.
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E.g. The experience of depression often manifests itself through fear of punishment.
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In answer to SJLD's query about whether an experience can manifest itself, I would pose the similar question: can depression manifest itself? I think that the word "experience" is vital because it takes the discourse beyond the clinical diagnostic category of "depression" to the personal aspect of what it is like to experience it and how that personal experience reveals itself to an observer.
Many thanks for your efforts. I thought twice about asking this question, it seemed to be 'too easy' but judging by the discussion engendered I was right to ask the question. The next 'question' is open for observation/remarks/answers.
Is a Freudian slip some sort of ladies underwear?
TIA Chris.
And if I don't have reason to call upon you in the next 10 days, A Very Merry Christmas & A Happy & Prosperous New Year to All.
Thank you for your efforts throughout the year,
Chris.
Thank you Bashiqa.
Depression "expresses itself" is perfectly natural to me, as is the passive construction by the way which is pretty natural in English of course, every bit as much as the reflexives in French!
but it demands a certain knowledge of and ease with the subject matter...
I personally would avoid the nasty passive construction and write it in plain English.
I think the comment I put on previous question also applies to this one. Your contributions are, to say the least, interesting. It's nice to know that my questions provoke some head-scratching.
Don't forget the "often". I didn't say or imply that "fear of punishment" is the only way depression expresses itself (IOW how people with depression experience it/feel, in plain English).
It's not expressed AS the fear of being punished, because that is only one of several ways in which it may express itself. I suggest: through. or in the form of the fear ... . Indeed, I think that relying upon a single criteria to decide somebody is depressed is probably a bad idea that would only benefit pharmaceutical companies.
It's not expressed BY the fear of being punished but AS the fear of being punished.
Depression feels like the fear of being punished.
Carrying depression around is like being punished for a crime I ...
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1 Dec 2011 – Carrying depression around is like being punished for a crime I cannot identify ... It feels like a punishment for a crime I cannot identify.
Depression is often likened to a fear of punishment.
In spite of the fact that "vécu" denotes past, thus, as confirmed by any decent dictionary, it is often rendered in English as "experience".
The presence of the word "souvent" in the sentence does not pose a problem. Here is how it might be rendered :
"experience of depression is often expressed by the fear of being punished..."
The passive voice in all its glory!
Of course with more context, the sentence before and after this one might help. Expression of time is such a particular thing.
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a history of depression
Explanation: or
depression antecedents
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Vécu = past life, things lived, experienced
Conor McAuley France Local time: 18:15 Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 8
Explanation: as/by the fear of punishment / of being punished
Drmanu49 Local time: 18:15 Specializes in field Native speaker of: English, French PRO pts in category: 484
21 mins confidence: peer agreement (net): +2
depression
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mimi 254 Local time: 17:15 Native speaker of: English, French PRO pts in category: 4
9 mins confidence: peer agreement (net): +2
experience of depression
Explanation: "Recent work on the experience of depression as a cultural phenomenon and .... It showed how a lived experience, such as depression, was interpreted by an ..."
psychsocgerontology.oxfordjournals.org/content/62/6/S392.
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 13 mins (2011-12-13 14:54:14 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
E.g. The experience of depression often manifests itself through fear of punishment.
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 3 hrs (2011-12-13 18:33:08 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
In answer to SJLD's query about whether an experience can manifest itself, I would pose the similar question: can depression manifest itself? I think that the word "experience" is vital because it takes the discourse beyond the clinical diagnostic category of "depression" to the personal aspect of what it is like to experience it and how that personal experience reveals itself to an observer.
B D Finch France Local time: 18:15 Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 24
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Despite the misgivings from others, I decided this suited my text. Thank you.