dans le cadre d'un bilan d'extension normal

English translation: standard staging (investigation)

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French term or phrase:	bilan d'extension normal
English translation:	standard staging (investigation)
Entered by:	Kajuco

00:53 Mar 17, 2008

French to English translations [PRO]
Medical - Medical (general) / breast cancer

French term or phrase: dans le cadre d'un bilan d'extension normal

Consultation aupres du Professeur XXX: indication d'une chimotherapie avec EPIRUBICINE -TAXOTER apres RCT *dans le cadre d'un bilan d'extension normal*

Kajuco KudoZ activity Questions: 1041 (2 open) (15 without valid answers) (12 closed without grading) Answers: 15 United Kingdom
Local time: 01:12

as part of the standard staging (investigation)

Explanation:
http://masson.fr/masson/portal/bookmark;jsessionid=9465D13FB...
http://www.pathol08.com/cancer/article.php?sid=140

Staging is the term used in English to denote the determination of the extent of a cancer's progression.

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Le bilan d'extension precisant les territoires ganglionnaires et/ou ... The purpose of initial staging is to define the limit of detectable disease and
http://www.citeulike.org/user/textoris/article/479901

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Note added at 5 days (2008-03-22 15:45:14 GMT)
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Hi Kajuko.
This is in reply to your question about the term "initial" in the third reference.

"Initial" refers to the first staging prior to the start of treatment of the cancer. Subsequent to treatment, staging may be performed again and again to determine the efficacy of the treatment or to monitor the progression of the disease.

Selected response from:

Michael Barnett
Local time: 20:12

Grading comment

I thought I'd already done this, but let's try again!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +7

as part of the standard staging (investigation)

Michael Barnett

2 -1

as part of an extensive standard work-up

MatthewLaSon

Discussion entries: 11

MatthewLaSon

00:20 Mar 24, 2008

Sometimes, guesses end up being the right answer (not in this case, though). And if a guess turns out to be the right answer, then it would be helpful, right? You're saying that one should never guess because guesses are never helpful. That's illogical.

Michael Barnett

15:43 Mar 23, 2008

Hi Kajuco. That's for the points. :-) I think you can speak to the moderator/administrator to correct the error.
Regards.

Kajuco

United Kingdom

ASKER

10:31 Mar 23, 2008

chosen, not chosed. My automatic fingers seem to have chosen that spelling.

Kajuco

United Kingdom

ASKER

10:30 Mar 23, 2008

Matthew, indeed you would not be responsible if I had chosed your answer for my translation, nor did I say that. All I said was that I did not think it helpful just to make a guess.
You never did tell me what "work-up" means.

MatthewLaSon

01:24 Mar 23, 2008

Only you are liable if you translate something wrong in your text -- not me or any other answerer.

MatthewLaSon

01:20 Mar 23, 2008

Besides, I've seen many times were answerers who had a confidance level of 5 were wrong and those with a confidance level of 1 were right. Your comment to me is illogical and uncalled for.

MatthewLaSon

01:17 Mar 23, 2008

Kajuco, why am I responsible should you have chosen my answer as your translation? Guessing is not against the rules on ProZ (that's clearly why there are confidance levels to be chosen). As you can see, my confidance level was a 2.

Kajuco

United Kingdom

ASKER

16:07 Mar 22, 2008

Thank you very much, Michael, for your explanation of "initial".
...Hey, what's going on? It seems I chose "none of these answers are appropriate..." but I had chosen your answer, Michael, with 4 points. Could I have clicked wrong? If so, do you know if I can change that?

MatthewLaSon

22:03 Mar 17, 2008

I was wrong. Your thinking was indeed right.

Michael Barnett

05:54 Mar 17, 2008

You were on the exact, correct and proper track. ;-)

Kajuco

United Kingdom

ASKER

03:38 Mar 17, 2008

Thanks. I'm not familiar with the expression "work-up".What does it mean? So was I completely on the wrong track when I thought that "extension" meant extension, or spread (of the cancer) and that "bilan" meant the assessment of that spread, and that it would be a routine (normal) assessment. Help!

Answers

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

as part of an extensive standard work-up

Explanation:
Hello,

dans le cadre = as part of
bilan = work-up
d'extension = extensive
normal = standard

For some reason or other, I like "extensive standard" than "standard extensive"

I hope this helps.

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Typo: I like "extensive standard" more than "standard extensive" as it sounds more natural to me.

MatthewLaSon
Local time: 20:12
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 74

Notes to answerer

Asker: I appreciate your willingness to help, but I donot think it is helpful just to make a guess. By the time I had to send the translation, yours was the only reply and I could have ben swayed by it.

5 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +7

as part of the standard staging (investigation)

Michael Barnett
Local time: 20:12
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 733

Grading comment

I thought I'd already done this, but let's try again!

Notes to answerer

Asker: I'm a bit puzzled: in the third reference, is "initial" in the English actually contained in the meaning of "bilan d'extension"? Why "initial"?

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