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LRSI - loges rénaux simples et indolores

English translation: no costovertebral angle rigidity or tenderness


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French term or phrase:LRSI - loges rénales souples et indolores
English translation:no costovertebral angle rigidity or tenderness
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French term or phrase: LRSI - loges rénaux simples et indolores
I know that these are renal capsules (suprarenal?) and that they are painless/painfree, but how do I translate "simples" please?
Thanks for your help!
Heather Phillips
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:25
no costovertebral angle rigidity or tenderness
Explanation:
loges rénales SOUPLES et indolores

[DOC] AVANT – PROPOS Une série de préoccupations hante notre esprit ... - [ Translate this page ]File Format: Microsoft Word - View as HTML
LRSI loges rénales simples et indolores. LSD latence sensitive distale ..... SDIP+ (abdomen) souple, dépressible, indolore, péristaltisme présent ...
www.esric.com/lbca/davidsem_v4.doc

The "loges rénales" are the renal beds/angles. In an clinical examination, the kidneys are palpated and percussed in the lumbar region - see costovertebral or renal angle.

http://medinfo.ufl.edu/year1/bcs/slides/abdomen/abdomen.html...

http://www.patient.co.uk/leaflets/renal_angle_tenderness.htm

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[PDF] Docteur, ça brûle... 1er cas 1er cas - [ Translate this page ]File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
et percussion des loges rénales. 3. Idem (2.) et bandelette urinaire. 4. Idem (3. ..... En particulier la loge rénale (angle costo-vertébral…) ...
premier-recours.hug-ge.ch/_library/ateliers/2007/071010_dysurie.pdf

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As a matter of interest (and for general enlightenment :-) ), "loges rénales" are Nierenloge or Nierenlager in German.

c.f. similar German-English question
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/medical_general/...

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See photo here of "palpation de la loge rénale"
http://tinyurl.com/yevvfq6
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Summary of answers provided
5 +4no costovertebral angle rigidity or tendernessSJLD
4Uncomplicated and painfree perinephric spaces
Anne Pietrasik
4 -1normal painless renal capsule
Drmanu49


  

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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
normal painless renal capsule


Explanation:
Residual normal renal parenchyma is seen (white arrow), and there is a thin ... and no extension through the renal capsule or into the renal sinus fat was ... It most frequently manifests in children as a painless abdominal mass (9); ...
radiographics.rsna.org/content/28/4/1221.full

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normal renal capsule not inducing any pain.

Most renal pain is caused by rapid stretching of the renal capsule. ... pain and are usually identified by the patient or physician as a painless mass. ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/.../br.fcgi?book=cm... -

Drmanu49
Local time: 03:25
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Anne Pietrasik: "Loge rénale" n'est pas synonyme de "capsule rénale". Il s'agit d'une autre structure anatomique qui englobe d'ailleurs la capsule rénale.
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36 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Uncomplicated and painfree perinephric spaces


Explanation:
The French text includes a spelling mistake, it should read : "loges rénales". The term "loge rénale" covers much more than just the renal capsule. Here is a definition:
La loge rénale contient les trois éléments principaux du rein c'est-à-dire les vaisseaux sanguins qui transportent le sang vers le parenchyme c'est-à-dire le tissu fonctionnel du rein, le parenchyme rénal lui-même qui élabore l'urine et les voies excrétrices qui ont pour rôle de transporter (écoulement) l'urine vers la vessie à partir du parenchyme rénal. Ces trois éléments sont contenus dans une coque de nature fibreuse que l'on appelle la capsule du rein qui est elle-même entourée d'une membrane graisseuse : la loge rénale.

Example sentence(s):
  • The perinephric space is a cone-shaped retroperitoneal compartment containing the kidney, adrenal gland, perinephric fat, fibrous bridging septa, and a rich network of perirenal vessel and lymphatics. Perinephric space pathology may originate from within

    Reference: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9376088
    Reference: http://www.vulgaris-medical.com/dossiers/rein-et-formation-d...
Anne Pietrasik
France
Local time: 03:25
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
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Notes to answerer
Asker: It is one of the tests carried out on a girl who had a skiing accident and underwent X-rays, CT and lab tests. Thanks for your excellent help.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  SJLD: LRSI implies a clinical examination - we can't access the perinephric spaces with our hands and you'll never see this expression used in a physical exam/if there is reference to tenderness, it must be clinical
40 mins
  -> The problem, as usual, is that we have absolutely no context ! We don't know if this refers to a clinical exam, an imaging report or what ! On reflexion, I think you are probably right, it has to be a clinical examination.
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22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +4
no costovertebral angle rigidity or tenderness


Explanation:
loges rénales SOUPLES et indolores

[DOC] AVANT – PROPOS Une série de préoccupations hante notre esprit ... - [ Translate this page ]File Format: Microsoft Word - View as HTML
LRSI loges rénales simples et indolores. LSD latence sensitive distale ..... SDIP+ (abdomen) souple, dépressible, indolore, péristaltisme présent ...
www.esric.com/lbca/davidsem_v4.doc

The "loges rénales" are the renal beds/angles. In an clinical examination, the kidneys are palpated and percussed in the lumbar region - see costovertebral or renal angle.

http://medinfo.ufl.edu/year1/bcs/slides/abdomen/abdomen.html...

http://www.patient.co.uk/leaflets/renal_angle_tenderness.htm

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[PDF] Docteur, ça brûle... 1er cas 1er cas - [ Translate this page ]File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
et percussion des loges rénales. 3. Idem (2.) et bandelette urinaire. 4. Idem (3. ..... En particulier la loge rénale (angle costo-vertébral…) ...
premier-recours.hug-ge.ch/_library/ateliers/2007/071010_dysurie.pdf

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Note added at 6 hrs (2009-11-23 17:37:03 GMT)
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As a matter of interest (and for general enlightenment :-) ), "loges rénales" are Nierenloge or Nierenlager in German.

c.f. similar German-English question
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/medical_general/...

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See photo here of "palpation de la loge rénale"
http://tinyurl.com/yevvfq6

SJLD
Local time: 03:25
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 808
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  liz askew: Assessment Made Incredibly Easy! - Google Books Result edited by Margaret Eckman - 2008 - Medical - 416 pages Percussion Kidney percussion checks for costovertebral angle tenderness that occurs with ... Use just enough force to cause a painless but percep
1 hr
  -> thanks Liz!

agree  Dr D Jones
3 hrs
  -> thanks Daniel!

agree  Anne Pietrasik: Il n'y a que les imbéciles qui ne changent jamais d'avis ! ;-)
7 hrs
  -> n'est-ce pas? merci Anne - très sporting :-)

agree  elias melhem
2 days22 hrs
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