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15:25 Nov 23, 2009
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French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Medical (general)
French term or phrase: rétrocession
From a document in which a Principal Investigator in a clinical trial is explaining various financial aspects of the study.

"Le montant facturé à l'investigateur représentera une fraction du prix officiel de la prestation; le prestataire de service est intéressé par le biais d'une rétrocession."

I am not entirely sure what they are saying here....
Peter Bajorek
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3 +3retrocession
rir
3return of ownership
Chris Hall
3[product listed as belonging to ]special invoicing ruleliz askew
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liz askew

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[product listed as belonging to ]special invoicing rule


Explanation:
I have found one reference to “facturer la rétrocession”…
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PROFIL DE POSTE
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Choix de l'ordonnance spécifique de l'essai clinique : soit celle créée .... Facturer la rétrocession. - Conserver la fiche jaune avec une copie de l'ordonnance pour ... sur les Essais Cliniques au Centre d'Investigation Clinique (CIC). ...
www.siphl.fr/site SIPHL/Documents/GrenobleMEDICAMENTS.pdf

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Forum osCommerce-fr > facture de rétrocession
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Le fait de facturer à une de ses sociétés gonfle automatiquement le CA ... et simplifier commandes, livraisons et factures de rétrocessions. ...
www.oscommerce-fr.info/forum/lofiversion/.../t40728.html - Cached - Similar
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Facture de retrocession
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Bonjour à tous Je viens vers vous pour savoir s'il était possible de générer une facture de rétrocession. En effet je dois retrocéder ...
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Etablir une facture de rétrocession de matériel - L'Univers des ...
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Etablir une facture de rétrocession de matériel - Le plombier qui fait l'entretien de ma laverie m'a rétrocédé à prix coûtant du matériel dont j'avais - Nos ...
experts-univers.com/etablir_une_facture_de_retrocession_de_materiel.html - Cached – Similar

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SAP Patient Management
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Facturer rapidement. Développer le contrôle de gestion. Donner aux pôles les outils d'analyses ... Invoicing and Payment Handling. Patient Administration and Services .... La gestion des rétrocessions. La gestion des forfaits techniques ...
www.sap.com/community/.../2009_06_Worldtour_PUB11_SAP_fr.pd...
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« CCAM-T2A découvrez le nouveau mode d'échange avec l'assurance ...
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Invoice Manager : plus de 80 entreprises installées ... Informations séjours / Facturation hors budget global. Parcours de soins coordonnées. Rétrocession de médicaments. EFS. Traçabilité des Poches de Sang Labiles ...
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Médicaments : prescription restreinte et rétrocession au public ...
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Médicaments : prescription restreinte et rétrocession au public par certains établissements de santé. Informations relatives au Décret "rétrocession" du 16 ...
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Médicaments : prescription restreinte et rétrocession au public ...
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Le décret organise la rétrocession sur une base réglementaire claire et définit de manière très restrictive son champ : seuls les médicaments inscrits sur ...
www.sante.gouv.fr/htm/dossiers/retrocession/retro12.htm - Cached - Similar
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La rétrocession hospitalière
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La rétrocession de médicaments à l'hôpital consiste en la dispensation de médicament à des patients ambulatoires. Ces dépenses sont présentées au ...
www.leem.org/medicament/la-retrocession-hospitaliere-453.ht... - Cached – Similar

HealthPolicyMonitor | Surveys| IRDES - France| 06| Regulating ...
This process called "retrocession" which is specific to France, ... margin and the reimbursement by the health insurance fund is based on this final price. ...
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106, Special invoicing rule (Rétrocession ), Product listed as belonging to special invoicing rules, Not required at this time for the US market. ...
www.chestandards.org/pdu/GDSNConsolidatedResponse.xls


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SYSTEMES DE FINANCEMENT DES MEDICAMENTS HOSPITALIERS : ETUDE ...
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called „retrocession‰ and is only applicable to „drugs reserved for hospital use‰. Until recently there were no criteria or restricted lists for this type ...
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retrocession > (lista de) medicamentos para pacientes de ambulatórios.
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[ Traduzir esta página ]Hospital pharmacies can deliver certain drugs to ambulatory patients (retrocession in French). Some drugs can only ...
www.proz.com › ... › English to Portuguese › Medical: Pharmaceuticals - Cached

Hi

I should have posted all this in the Reference box, so I do apologise
Maybe my answer does not make sense, but I cannot see how "retrocession" works here as this seems to be about invoicing, rather than anything else, doesn't it? Also, I cannot see how "return of ownership" works either, if this is about invoicing!.

Sorry if I have upset anybody!

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see here too

http://www.pharmaclient.net/gloss-pharma.htm

liz askew
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:40
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PRO pts in category: 872

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neutral  SJLD: hi Liz - this has to do with a special deal for dispensing "hospital use only" drugs to outpatients - not relevant here
21 hrs
  -> no problem! Couldn't get my head round this one for the life of me:)
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18 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
return of ownership


Explanation:
Another suggestion.

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Also "reconveyance" is a possible translation.

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"Handover" is also a feasible translation in this context.

I don't honestly believe that there any other translations out there for the word "rétrocession".

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"Le montant facturé à l'investigateur représentera une fraction du prix officiel de la prestation; le prestataire de service est intéressé par le biais d'une rétrocession."
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"The amount invoiced to the investigator will represent a fraction of the official price of the service; the service provider is interested by means a handover."

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"by means OF a handover."

Chris Hall
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:40
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  xxxLionel_M: I've seen "handover" several times
47 mins
  -> Many thanks Lionel. Kind regards, Chris.

neutral  liz askew: Dear Chris. I cannot judge this answer, or any of the answers, because I do not understand the term sufficiently to make one!
17 hrs

disagree  SJLD: the service provider is not "interested" by anything - he/she is paid/compensated for services by this means (retrocession) - see facturation + rétrocession on .ch sites
1 day2 hrs
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16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
retrocession


Explanation:
a return, to give back

To cede or give back (a territory, for example); return

hope it helps!

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or a return

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I see many invoices and retrocession.
http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/view.htm?docid=GLD/RCTI200030/0...

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http://www.corpdatasys.com/poolmgmt.htm

rir
United States
Local time: 03:40
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese

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agree  Dr Lofthouse
23 mins

agree  xxx::::::::::
14 hrs

neutral  liz askew: I found your last reference in my searches too, but do not fully understand the term. Retrocession certainly is used alongside reinsurance, FWIW.
17 hrs

agree  elias melhem
1 day17 hrs
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Pentera Trust Company Limited (“PTCL”)
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Trust Services ¯ PTCL will provide corporate trustee services or personal trustee .... PTCL will not retain any commission, interest rebate, retrocession or any payment of any kind from any service provider payable as a result of an ... PTCL shall be entitled to fees and disbursements, the extent of which shall be ...
www.penteratrust.com/_support/.../general_terms_and_conditi... - Similar
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Fighting back on wealth management fees
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But when it comes to wealth management services, trying to work out ... wealth manager will often receive a retrocession, or payment, from a fund provider. ... retrocessions passed on and are charged a flat fee that includes investment ...
www.stonehage.com/.../2009_06_23_Wealth-Bulletin_Fighting b...
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MultiFonds Transfer Agent / Products / IGEFI - IGEFI
Detailed corporate actions and payment instructions. Commission, trailer and retrocession fee payments. Commission log file ... One platform meeting the requirements of global transfer agency service providers. ... "We will continually emphasize quality in all our operations from development to delivery and support ...
www.igefi.com/en/products/multifonds_transfer_agent - Cached - Similar

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rétrocession de commissions et de droits > retrocession of ...
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English translation: retrocession of commissions and fees ... "Retrocession Fee paid by the fund manager to the sales agent as a sales commission and for ...
www.proz.com › ... › French to English › Finance (general) - Cached

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Are there any other examples of "rétrocession" in your text?

Purely out of interest, as I too would like to get my head fully around this very tricky term.

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Hello there

What did you finally put in the end?

liz askew
United Kingdom
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 872
Note to reference poster
Asker: Actually, my deadline for the job was quite tight, so I had to return the translation before most of the answers came in and before a proper discussion started. I used the first answer to come back that wasn't "retrocession" - I think it was handover - and I crossed my fingers that someone would understand.... It was one of those times when you just don't know what to put - but you need to put something :-(

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