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French: détoilé par poinçonnage

English translation: trimmed by punching







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French term or phrase:détoilé par poinçonnage
English translation:trimmed by punching
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Tech/Engineering - Metallurgy / Casting / Finishing operations
French term or phrase: détoilé par poinçonnage
At least, I think it's "détoilé" as it's in capitals (DETOILE PAR POINCONNAGE).

This is a line in a "finishing specification" in table form which is part of a tender package for die-cast clutch housings.

I am wondering whether "détoilé" is not a synonym for "ébavuré" as I can see why one would want to remove the flashes ("bavures"), but not the web ("toile").

Anyone come across this term in this context?
David Goward
France
Clarification request(s) and response
Bashiqa: 9:12am Oct 18, 2007: could we please have the complete sentence
David Goward: 9:22am Oct 18, 2007: You've got it! - The "spec" is a table with lots of codes relating to parts of a drawing and an "observations" column in which "DETOILE PAR POINCONNAGE" appears several times.

trimming by punching / stamping
Explanation:
dixit my husband who is in the business - a toile is a 'thin thickness' / sheet of metal, so I'd say this is more like sheet removal by punching not just the deburring.
low confidence 'cos though I think I can visualise what it is I don't know if this is the right way to say it.
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Melzie
France
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Many thanks to Melzie, "Mr Melzie" and the Man From Bourth for their helpful contributions.
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Summary of answers provided
4deburrBashiqa
4Nuff said.Bourth
2 +2trimming by punching / stampingMelzie


  

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trimming by punching / stamping

Explanation:
dixit my husband who is in the business - a toile is a 'thin thickness' / sheet of metal, so I'd say this is more like sheet removal by punching not just the deburring.
low confidence 'cos though I think I can visualise what it is I don't know if this is the right way to say it.

Melzie
France
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Note from asker to answerer
Many thanks to Melzie, "Mr Melzie" and the Man From Bourth for their helpful contributions.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree Bourth: After all my hard work I'll post my findings all the same!
10 mins
  -> Oh Bourth, all that graft. My husbund was on the phone just as the question came up. Is translation happenstance? Thanks a lot.

agree Valérie Lapotre: Not sure about "trimming", not being native, but "punching" is right for "poinçonnage" (one of my client is expert in that field!)
33 mins
  -> Thank you, Valérie.
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25 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Nuff said.

Explanation:
See Melzie's answer, but some of these sites might be of interest.

Read about DEFLASHING of gearboxes and transmission casings at
http://www.rimrockcorp.com/News/An-Automated-State-of-Mind.p...

Haven't been able to determine exactly what "degating" is, but it's related:
Automated trim presses to DEFLASH and DEGATE castings. ...
manufacturing-fabrication.globalspec.com/Industrial-Directory/die_casting
After casting, a die trimming operation cuts the GATES off and removes flash from the bolt holes ... Automated trim presses to deflash and DEGATE castings. ...
process-equipment.globalspec.com/Industrial-Directory/die_trimming

GATE (ingate) The portion of the runner where the molten metal enters the mold cavity.
Runner system or GATING The set of channels in a mold through which molten metal is poured to fill the mold cavity. The system normally consists of a vertical section (downgate or SPRUE) to the point where it joins the mold cavity (gate) and leads from the mold cavity through vertical channels (risers or feeders) (Fig. 3).
http://www.castsolutions.com/content/view/46/71/
Ah-ha! Sprue is the word I knew.

Not familiar with "toile", but note the resemblance with "web" below:

Flash. A thin WEB or fin of metal on a casting which occurs at die parting, air vents, and around movable cores. This excess metal is due to the necessary working and operating clearances in a die.

Trim. To remove the FLASH, OVERFLOWS, AND RUNNERS from a die casting.


Bourth
France
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 146
Notes to answerer
Asker: Gate is "attaque de coulée" in this spec. although I also have "départ de fonderie". I'll ask that as a separate question.

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deburr

Explanation:
deburr by mechanical means. Hand held rotating deburring tool to remove flashes. Industrial version of "DREMEL" tool

Bashiqa
France
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 6
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, but I think Melzie's answer, supported by Bourth's findings, is nearer the mark.

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