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French: arrangeur et orchestrateur

English translation: arranger and orchestrator







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French term or phrase:arrangeur et orchestrateur
English translation:arranger and orchestrator
Entered by:Gayle Wallimann
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Art/Literary - Music
French term or phrase: arrangeur et orchestrateur
Is this "orchestrator" or "composer"?

I'm inclined to use "orchestrator", but when I look at various sites that speak of "arrangers and....", it's usually followed by "composer". The Oxford English Dictionary states that an "orchestrator" arranges, scores or composes, so he does a bit more than a composer....I just need confirmation, thanks!
AWOE
Canada
arranger and orchestrator
Explanation:
obviously

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An orchestrator takes music that is already written (could be written by themself) and translates it to be played by an orchestra - usually an orchestra using classical instruments. An arranger does the same thing, but the word is used with bands and other less classical contexts. Orchestra, in this context, usually implies the ability to write for strings. Arranger can also apply to a singer's arrangement, which would not be included in orchestration.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestration

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In film writing, orchestrators are very often used. Since the score must be prepared very rapidly, the composer simply doesn't have enough time to do all the work alone. Orchestration is very time-consuming, without necessarily being creative.

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With a little imagination, orchestrator is to composer as translator is to writer.

A composer such as Beethoven orchestrated all his own music, but the orchestration was only part of the compositional process, a part that is both extremely technical as well as being more or less creative. Traditionally a composer will study harmony, counterpoint & orchestration.
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Vaughn
France
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arranger and orchestrator

Explanation:
obviously

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Note added at 10 mins (2007-11-14 20:23:37 GMT)
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An orchestrator takes music that is already written (could be written by themself) and translates it to be played by an orchestra - usually an orchestra using classical instruments. An arranger does the same thing, but the word is used with bands and other less classical contexts. Orchestra, in this context, usually implies the ability to write for strings. Arranger can also apply to a singer's arrangement, which would not be included in orchestration.

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Note added at 12 mins (2007-11-14 20:25:16 GMT)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestration

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Note added at 14 mins (2007-11-14 20:27:55 GMT)
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In film writing, orchestrators are very often used. Since the score must be prepared very rapidly, the composer simply doesn't have enough time to do all the work alone. Orchestration is very time-consuming, without necessarily being creative.

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Note added at 34 mins (2007-11-14 20:47:56 GMT)
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With a little imagination, orchestrator is to composer as translator is to writer.

A composer such as Beethoven orchestrated all his own music, but the orchestration was only part of the compositional process, a part that is both extremely technical as well as being more or less creative. Traditionally a composer will study harmony, counterpoint & orchestration.

Vaughn
France
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree jean-jacques alexandre: soundly good// nope I just made it up !
26 mins
  -> Soundly? Is that a cooking term, JJ? ;-))

agree PTeale
1 hr
  -> my best to berkshire

agree Simon Charass: Its sounds in synchrony.
5 hrs

agree Cervin
11 hrs

agree Catherine CHAUVIN: Une bonne note pour ta version ! :-)
16 hrs
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