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effectuer un pinçage

English translation: to carry out a pitch raise/change


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French term or phrase:effectuer un pinçage
English translation:to carry out a pitch raise/change
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Music / Piano tuning
French term or phrase: effectuer un pinçage
This occurs in the job description of a piano technician and seems to refer to a preliminary procedure carried out before tuning. I have not been able to find an equivalent term in English.
catpfam
Australia
Local time: 01:13
to do a pitch raise/change
Explanation:
This isn't an online resource but is straight from the horse's mouth - my brother is a piano technician in London and I emailed him about this query.

"Normally I'd refer to this as a pitch raise. The more general term would be a pitch change, but for a piano that is very out of tune it is far more likely to be flat, and so a pitch raise is needed. I do loads of these: pianos that have not been tuned for a couple of years generally need them. The technique is to tune all the strings to roughly the right pitch as quickly as possible, to minimise the time that the frame is under uneven tension. While this is done, the strings will tend towards their previous tension, and our rule of thumb is to account for this by tuning the strings a third of the distance the instrument is away from concert pitch in the other direction.

I'm sure that's too much information but the term I'd go for is a pitch raise or a pitch change. Pitch adjustment isn't really correct, a pitch change is more drastic than the word adjustment implies."

Thanks go to the asker, who has inspired me to get said brother to come and visit, and tune my piano!
Selected response from:

Angela Dickson
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:13
Grading comment
Thanks Angela for pulling together all of the strings (hah! - sorry!) the others suggested.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2to do a pitch raise/change
Angela Dickson
4 +1pluck(ing) the strings
Sharon Benmussa
2 +1pitch adjustment, rough tuningZareh Darakjian Ph.D.
Summary of reference entries provided
Suggestion
Angela Dickson

  

Answers


3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
pluck(ing) the strings


Explanation:
Before tuning the technician plucks the strings

cours.musique.umontreal.ca/.../psychoacoustique-chapitre08_diapo.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plucked_string_instrument
http://www.wikihow.com/Tune-a-Unison-on-a-Piano

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Note added at 3 hrs (2009-10-21 06:50:12 GMT)
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or "pinching" I've also seen....

Sharon Benmussa
France
Local time: 18:13
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  mgdletters: right on. You essentially pull some of the strings and let them go gently
5 mins
  -> thanks!

neutral  Angela Dickson: I don't think it's just plucking - the wikipedia article is not relevant at all, and the wikihow is a basic guide to performing small adjustments on your own piano.//I think Zareh's suggestion is fine, and I provided a reference - what else should I do?
1 hr
  -> Please suggest something better...
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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
to do a pitch raise/change


Explanation:
This isn't an online resource but is straight from the horse's mouth - my brother is a piano technician in London and I emailed him about this query.

"Normally I'd refer to this as a pitch raise. The more general term would be a pitch change, but for a piano that is very out of tune it is far more likely to be flat, and so a pitch raise is needed. I do loads of these: pianos that have not been tuned for a couple of years generally need them. The technique is to tune all the strings to roughly the right pitch as quickly as possible, to minimise the time that the frame is under uneven tension. While this is done, the strings will tend towards their previous tension, and our rule of thumb is to account for this by tuning the strings a third of the distance the instrument is away from concert pitch in the other direction.

I'm sure that's too much information but the term I'd go for is a pitch raise or a pitch change. Pitch adjustment isn't really correct, a pitch change is more drastic than the word adjustment implies."

Thanks go to the asker, who has inspired me to get said brother to come and visit, and tune my piano!


    Reference: http://www.gumtree.com/london/30/42263430.html
Angela Dickson
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:13
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 24
Grading comment
Thanks Angela for pulling together all of the strings (hah! - sorry!) the others suggested.
Notes to answerer
Asker: It's Catherine ;-) Thank you very much for digging around further on this one. I've done a bit more research tonight and, yes, everything seems to be pointing in the direction of pitch-raising! I found the following site quite helpful for comparing with French descriptions of different actions, tools, etc. http://billcalhounpiano.110mb.com/glossary.html Enjoy your piano (and your brother's visit!)


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Zareh Darakjian Ph.D.: Yes, this also is another way of saying "pitch adjustment". This is also acceptable.
49 mins

agree  Bourth: This matches the multiple Web explanations I found for the French which talk a lot about tensioning..
4 hrs
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22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +1
pitch adjustment, rough tuning


Explanation:
If the piano is really badly out of tune.. according to the reference given. Interestingly "poncage" and not pincage" means sanding..
and the writer of the article finds a similarity with a rough sanding of a surface and the rough tuning of a piano...

I get carried away!...

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Note added at 23 mins (2009-10-21 04:08:13 GMT)
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Example: Finely tuning a piano is like creating a mirror-smooth wood coffee table from a rough unfinished or worn/scratched table. First: sand it with rough sandpaper to get everything in the same range. Then sand with progressively finer paper until the surface is mirror-like. If the table is not bad at the beginning, sand with fine paper.

If your piano is badly out-of-tune, or the pitch is too low, a rough tuning is required (often called a “pitch adjustment” or “pitch raise”) to get all notes in the same range (fairly close to their target pitches), followed by a fine tuning. If your piano is not badly out-of-tune, fine tune it.

Things that affect your piano’s tuning stability the most are: humidity changes, heavy use, the newness of the piano or strings (strings stretch significantly for the first few years). Open windows and doors around or near the piano will cause it to react to the weather changes as if the piano was put outside. During rainy periods using the heat in your house will help keep the humidity constant in your house.

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Note added at 1 day18 mins (2009-10-22 04:03:13 GMT) Post-grading
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You are most welcome, Catherine. Glad to have been of help.


    Reference: http://www.fredricksonpiano.com/services.html
Zareh Darakjian Ph.D.
United States
Local time: 09:13
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ArmenianArmenian
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Zareh, you definitely put me on the right track.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Angela Dickson: I think you're right but can you demonstrate that the French and English terms match up?//looks like your inspiration was totally along the right lines, but "adjustment" isn't a strong enough word for what needs doing
4 hrs
  -> Thank you, Angela. I realize that I have a "missing link" here... may be a big one. I gave this answer mostly based on "intutiion + inspiration"... :)
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Reference comments


4 hrs
Reference: Suggestion

Reference information:
This site is an explanation of the piano tuning process, which contains a definition of your term. As Zareh suggests, it's the rough tuning process that's initially done for pianos that are *really* out of tune.

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Note added at 9 hrs (2009-10-21 12:46:10 GMT)
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Hello (sorry I can't address you by name)

I can't think of any offhand, but I'll ask my brother, who is a piano technician ;)


    Reference: http://www.prevalet-musique.com/accords.php
Angela Dickson
United Kingdom
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 24
Note to reference poster
Asker: Thank you for your comments, Angela, they provided a helpful insight into the others' suggestions. The article you recommend does indeed offer a thorough description of the tuning process. I had researched several similar articles in French, but what I've found in English tends to be more like the wikihow article and I don't feel satisfied with the level of language/professional terms. Would you know of a similarly good resource in English? Many thanks.

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