French: des durs à cuireEnglish translation: hard bop hardliners 
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| GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW) | | French term or phrase: | des durs à cuire | | English translation: | hard bop hardliners | | Entered by: | xxxsarahl |
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Art/Literary - Music / music | | French term or phrase: des durs à cuire | "On a longtemps voulu voir en eux seulement des durs à cuire du hard bop. "
For a long time they were regarded as nothing more than hardcore hard bop ???? |
| | Clarification request(s) and responsecelandine (asker): 10:17am Jan 19, 2004: hard-liners - thanks - this is more to do with a hardcore attitude to the principles of the music rather than sth like hardboiled which suggests someone who is impervious to feeling
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xxxsarahl
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| hard bop hardliners
Explanation:
maybe...
| xxxsarahl
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| "hard-boiled" boppers
Explanation:
le "hard" sert double-usage ici.
Trésor de la langue française:
C. P. ext. [En parlant d'une pers.]
1. Très résistant, au physique ou au moral. Tous les nouveau-nés chétifs meurent dans les six premiers mois, (...) Ceux qui survivent sont des gaillards durs à cuire (ROMAINS, Knock, 1923, I, p. 3).
2. Très volontaire, qui ne se laisse pas facilement influencer. L'Empereur va bien et est en excellents termes avec les ministres, dont les plus durs à cuire ont été promptement gagnés (MÉRIMÉE, Lettres Dsse de Castiglione-Colonna, 1870, p. 94).
American Heritage:
hard-boiled (härdboild) adj.
Cooked by boiling in the shell to a solid consistency. Used of eggs.
Callous; unfeeling.
Unsentimental and practical; tough.
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Note added at 3 hrs 32 mins (2004-01-19 10:09:27 GMT)
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the meaning is a bit shifted I reckon.
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| fundamentalist
Explanation:
If you're trying to avoid using "hardcore" (which works OK for me) in order to avoid people thinking they're some kind of hard bop/Biohazard crossover combo (altho' I suppose Ephel Duath could experiment with that on a B-side - but I digress!), then perhaps "fundamentalist" might work.
Or have you rejected that so as not to cause confusion with FunDaMental ?!
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