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sans / avec filiation

English translation: without parentage (without the parent's names)

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French term or phrase:sans filiation
English translation:without parentage (without the parent's names)

15:06 Dec 11, 2001
French to English translations [PRO]
/ public records
French term or phrase: sans / avec filiation
This is from a government form that people have to fill out to order public records, like marriage and birth certificates:
"La nature du document a delivrer (copie, extrait avec ou sans filiation) sera automatiquement deduire des informations fournies. Si vous souhaiter expressement un document sans filiation, cocher la suivante".
Thanks, Karen
Karen Tucker (X)
United States
Local time: 23:24
with or without parentage
Explanation:
with parentage available from your place of birth
Without parentage; available where you live

2 to 3 weeks avec filiation
a few minutes without
but you do need the former in some cases
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DPolice
Local time: 05:24
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I did more checking and found out it means whether you want the parents' names listed or not (some people might not want it included in case of adoption or out-of-wedlock birth). Wouldn't it have been easier just to say "with or without the parents' names"?! It sounds as if it's not clear even in French. Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. Karen
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2with or without parentage
DPolice
5certificate which may or may not show descendants
mckinnc
4with / without filial relationship
Juan Kriete
4legal relationship
Lise Boismenu, B.Sc.
4with / without filiation/parentage
Helen D. Elliot (X)


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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
certificate which may or may not show descendants


Explanation:
might do it

mckinnc
Local time: 05:24
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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
with / without filial relationship


Explanation:
Or with / without parantage

Juan Kriete
Spain
Local time: 04:24
Native speaker of: Spanish
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
with or without parentage


Explanation:
with parentage available from your place of birth
Without parentage; available where you live

2 to 3 weeks avec filiation
a few minutes without
but you do need the former in some cases


    personal experience two weeks ago
DPolice
Local time: 05:24
PRO pts in pair: 454
Grading comment
I did more checking and found out it means whether you want the parents' names listed or not (some people might not want it included in case of adoption or out-of-wedlock birth). Wouldn't it have been easier just to say "with or without the parents' names"?! It sounds as if it's not clear even in French. Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. Karen

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agree  Henri (X)
55 mins
agree  Jacqueline McKay (X)
18 hrs
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
legal relationship


Explanation:
see: Domaine(s) : droit 1 / 1




legal relationship lien juridique

Syn.
rapports juridiques

-ET-

Domaine(s) : droit 1 / 4
droit civil




filiation n. f.


Déf. :
Lien juridique entre parents et enfants.




[1974]







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Note added at 2001-12-11 21:36:07 (GMT)
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with or without legal relationship.

Lise Boismenu, B.Sc.
Canada
Local time: 23:24
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in pair: 328
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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
with / without filiation/parentage


Explanation:
The idea is not clear in French. Do they mean proof of filiation (des preuves de la filiation) [In other words, documents that do or do not require proof of filation]? filiation by blood? (de la filiation par le sang)


The term "filiation" is used in the Civil Code of Québec. Varies from province to province and from country to country. The Statutes of Ontario AND Acts of New Brunswick use "parentage."



English:Status of Persons (Admin. Law)
Family Law
Anthropology

filiation s CORRECT

parentage s CORRECT
relationship of parentage s CORRECT
relationship of parent and child s CORRECT

OBS - Relationship esp. of a son to his father. The relationship between a parent and a child whether legitimate or illegitimate. Adjudication of paternity: affiliation. WEBIN p. 849. s


1998-12-16

French:Status of Persons (Admin. Law)
Family Law
Anthropology

filiation s CORRECT,FEM





OBS - Dr. Lien de parenté unissant l'enfant à son père (filiation paternelle) ou à sa mère (filiation maternelle). Lien de descendance directe entre ceux qui sont issus les uns des autres. ROB Vol. 3, p. 14. s
OBS - Projet de loi cité : The Reciprocal Enforcement of Maintenance Orders Act, Bill 10, (3rd reading), 1st Sess., 32nd Legislature (Man.), p. 4. s








Helen D. Elliot (X)
Canada
Local time: 23:24
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 407
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