brisent, en effet, tous les ingénieux ressorts - see context

English translation: il manque bien quelque chose

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French term or phrase:	brisent, en effet, tous les ingénieux ressorts - see context
English translation:	il manque bien quelque chose
Entered by:	Albert Golub

21:17 Mar 13, 2001

French to English translations [PRO]

French term or phrase: brisent, en effet, tous les ingénieux ressorts - see context

Context, a windsurfing destination:

"Le vent, cette richesse éolienne, n’a jamais fait défaut à cette ville. Hiver comme été, tous les windsurfer, tous les véliplanchistes du monde en savent désormais quelque chose. Ils se passent le mot, ils le lisent aussi de plus en plus dans toutes les revues spécialisées brisent, en effet, tous les ingénieux ressorts de n’importe quel anémomètre ou autre appareil de mesure..."

It is the last phrase I am having trouble decoding, is it missing something, or am I? The wind is breaking the anenometers?

Thank you!

Tamara Salvio KudoZ activity Questions: 214 (none open) (12 closed without grading) Answers: 154 United States
Local time: 20:08

il manque bien quelque chose

Explanation:
la phrase devrait etre de ce type
.....revues spécialisées: le vent,ici/sur ce "spot" (terme de veliplanchistes et surfeurs)atteint en effet une telle force qu'il peut briser ................
cette phrase telle qu'elle a été écrite est tout sauf française !!!!!
sa logique faisait ici gravement défaut
le oint final de la 1ere phrase separe le sujet "le vent" du vebe de la 2eme phrase qui reste sans sujet!!!!
il faut donc reintroduire ce sujet d'une façon ou d'une autre
hope it helps

Selected response from:

Albert Golub
Local time: 05:08

Grading comment

Merci a golub, et a tout ceux qui m'ont propose des solutions a ce casse-tete. Le seul Francais a avoir repondu, golub a d'abord corrige la phrase telle que'elle est ecrite, et m'a aussi fourni "gratuite" une autre explication dont j'avais besoin: l'utilization du terme "spot" que j'avais vu dans mon text, mais que je n'avais point pense a laisse tel quel dans la traduction (le sujet du "windsurfing" ne representant qu'une petite partie du document entier.

Amicalement, Tamara
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Summary of answers provided

et brisent, en effet, tous les ...

Madeleine van Zanten

brisant, perhaps, or et brisent,

CLS Lexi-tech

il manque bien quelque chose

Albert Golub

they (ie the windsurfers) ignore the clever mecanisms of all the anenometers ...

Nigel Patterson

qui brisent

ashiq mangel

Answers

2 hrs

et brisent, en effet, tous les ...

Explanation:
Could it mean that the wundersurfers and véliplanchistes use the mouth to ear information & and the information from their magazines, which is a more reliable source of information than the measurement instruments? A wind that breaks all the instruments would definitely be too strong to windsurf!

Madeleine van Zanten
Switzerland
Local time: 05:08
Native speaker of:

French
PRO pts in pair: 65

6 hrs

brisant, perhaps, or et brisent,

Explanation:
I read the sentence as follows:
the word of mouth of all the windsurfers is stronger than the wind itself,stronger than the facts (established by the anemometers) and therefore is capable of breaking the strongest springs of the same.
It isn't very well written in French, they are looking for an hyperbole but it is not very convincing
Regards
Paola L M

CLS Lexi-tech
Local time: 23:08
Native speaker of:

Italian
PRO pts in pair: 162

7 hrs

il manque bien quelque chose

Albert Golub
Local time: 05:08
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in pair: 359

Grading comment

9 hrs

they (ie the windsurfers) ignore the clever mecanisms of all the anenometers ...

Explanation:
There ought to be a comma after 'spécialisées', so as to emphasize that the subject of the verb is 'ils' (the windsurfers!) I think the sense of 'briser' here is 'to disregard' rather than 'to break' - because the windsurfers' knowledge and experience tell them better!

Own knowledge.

Nigel Patterson
United States
Local time: 22:08
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in pair: 24

13 hrs

qui brisent

Explanation:
Indeed something is missing. according to me "qui" is missing. I take from the angle that, as you know, advertising magazines always hype their vocabulary up. Therefore to emphasize on the quality of the wind, they are as mentioned above using an hyperbole.
You may say for instance:
they (i.e. the magazines) turn the anemometers made...
...in all the magazines that do not feel embarrass in disorienting the anemometers...
something of that kind.
Hope it helps

own understanding

ashiq mangel
Pakistan
Local time: 08:08
PRO pts in pair: 30

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