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French: donnée sensible

English translation: sensory information



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French term or phrase:donnée sensible
English translation:sensory information
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Art/Literary - Philosophy
French term or phrase: donnée sensible
L’approche empirique – l’ « expérience » – permet à l’homme de pénétrer le mystère de la nature « artificielle », en procédant de la ***donnée sensible*** à la loi qui la détermine, pour s’affranchir des enseignements des maîtres du XVe siècle.

A google search reveals this is some sort of philosophy term, but I have no idea what it means nor what the English equivalent is. Please help!
tatyana000
France
Clarification request(s) and response
Melissa McMahon: 12:18am May 22, 2008: Can you say some more about the context of the passage? Journal article? Textbook? Newspaper article? on what topic?
tatyana000: 6:56pm May 22, 2008: This passage is from a scholarly text about Leonardo da Vinci.


sensory information
Explanation:
That is knowledge through the senses, the world as perceived by the senses, or cognizance through perception.
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Euqinimod
France
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Summary of answers provided
3 +4sensory informationEuqinimod
4 +2sense data
Richard Benham
4sensory knowledge
MatthewLaSon
3what is given to the senses
Melissa McMahon
3 -2sensitive data/information
Katarina Peters


  


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19 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
sensory information

Explanation:
That is knowledge through the senses, the world as perceived by the senses, or cognizance through perception.

Euqinimod
France
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree Jim Tucker: Yes, since we're talking about empiricism. "Data" is an anachronism when talking about 15th-century thinkers.
17 mins

agree Jenny Duthie
39 mins

agree Anca Nitu: information received through sensory perception
4 hrs

agree B D Finch: Absolutely.
5 hrs
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27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -2
sensitive data/information

Explanation:
a possibility

Katarina Peters
Canada
Native speaker of: Native in HungarianHungarian, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree Richard Benham: A possibility in general, but not in this context.
2 hrs

disagree B D Finch: Agree with Richard's comment. Iappropriate for the context.
5 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
sensory knowledge

Explanation:
Hello,

This would be more suitable for the register. I don't think that "information" and "data" would be most appropriate in a this context (particulary, "data").

Lots of ghits for this...

I hope this helps.

MatthewLaSon
United States
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral Jim Tucker: ghits don't necessarily confirm - it's not knowledge until it's processed by the mind; rather it is a form of yet-unprocessed experience.// Well OK - but now you're not translating the French anymore, but rather glossing.
2 mins
  -> I don't agree with you. If I see that a chair is green, I know it's green. Information = knowledge
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
sense data

Explanation:
Usual term in philosophy. Whether or not it's an anachronism is neither here nor there.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-05-21 19:31:52 GMT)
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PS Pace JT, it's not about 15-century thinkers. It is about some later thinkers (date unspecified) freeing themselves from the dogmata of 15th-century thinkers.

Oh, and it's probably better hyphenated. It is the plural of sense-datum, of course. Merriam-Webster gives this term as dating from 1882; not quite the fifteenth century, but quite old for a philosophical term.

Richard Benham
France
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree Melissa McMahon: Yes, this is the philosophical term.
4 hrs

agree SusanNicholls: Seconded
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
what is given to the senses

Explanation:
I very much agree with Richard that sense data is the most common term - this is a less 'terminological' rendition.

Donnée = datum (Latin - data is just the plural - why anachronistic?) = the 'given'.

The key is that it is the material given to the senses rather than what is construed about it by the mind (though this distinction is of course an area of rife debate!).

In the passage you cite, the key seems to be about learning from sense experience rather than from analysing concepts.

Nb. the philosopher being talked about, the kind of text & the audience would be useful to know.

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Note added at 7 hrs (2008-05-22 00:16:20 GMT)
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Nb. "the sensible given" is actually used a fair bit in translations of texts in this area, and is undoubtedly a rendition of this term. It's a transliteration, but has gained a certain currency in the English philosophical community.

Melissa McMahon
Australia
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