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à proximité moyenne / à proximité réduite

English translation: in the general / immediate vicinity


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French term or phrase: à proximité moyenne / à proximité réduite
This is from a patent for a method to automatically detect and correct red eye in a photograph. Is this "close vicinity" (or "close proximity") and "immediate vicinity" (or "immediate proximity"), or am I missing something?

"validations ou rejet (102B) du candidat d’œil rouge en fonction de critères de taille (702), de forme (704) et de présence de peau ***à proximité moyenne (705) et réduite*** (706) dudit candidat;"

"le critère de présence de peau ***à proximité moyenne*** du candidat d’œil rouge utilise un premier modèle calorimétrique de peau vaste (MP1) déterminant les zones correspondant à de la peau"

"le critère de présence de peau ***à proximité réduite*** du candidat d’œil rouge utilise un deuxième modèle calorimétrique de peau (MP2) restreint, obtenu par apprentissage des couleurs de la peau, déterminant le teint de la peau de l’individu"
Jennifer Baldwin
United States
Local time: 05:33
English translation:in the general / immediate vicinity
Explanation:
Just to confirm my support for jennifer's own suggestion, and to give me the opportunity of posting the refs. requested by Helen.

Here are just 2 out of the 438,000 potentially relevant Google hits i got from my first, quick search:


Image analysis and processing: 8th International Conference, ICIAP ...

by Carlo Braccini, Leila DeFloriani, Gianni Vernazza - 1995 - Computers - 757 pages

image intensity of the pixel (i, j) in the next image frame Z SE : search area ... even for a pixel in the vicinity of which there are few salient features. ...

books.google.com/books?isbn=3540602984...

* * * *

Method for recognizing objects in an image pixel plane - Patent ...

Another example where an automatic image analysis method is employed is in the .... In order to ascertain the homogeneity of a pixel point vicinity that is ...

www.freepatentsonline.com/6944342.html



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Note added at 6 hrs (2009-08-02 13:35:32 GMT)
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there is a subtle nuance of meaning here that absolutely requires in-depth knowledge of the subject area to understand, and facile examples from the Internet with fortuitous collocations are simply not authoritative enough in this kind of specialized field.

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Note added at 15 hrs (2009-08-02 22:07:53 GMT)
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Here is the text extract from my first ref. in the form of an image; I think it's worth psoting here, as it is so directly relevant to the concept of image recognition (albeit in a different field) — and despite the non-English sounding names of its authors, I have to say that I find the standard of the scientific EN used irreproachable.

http://www.apmarsden.my.proz.com/images/Book text.jpg
Selected response from:

Tony M
France
Local time: 13:33
Grading comment
Thanks to everyone for their insight. I'm a technie, but I have to admit that both suggestions sound convincing. I chose this one mainly because it's in line with my original suspicion.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +1in the general / immediate vicinity
Tony M
4 +1at medium proximity / close proximity
Helen Shiner


Discussion entries: 10





  

Answers


2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
at medium proximity / close proximity


Explanation:
http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/infobank/flash/red-eye.d...

http://picturephotosoncanvas.com/?tag=flash-photography-move...

http://www.dowjow.com/camera_beginners_workshop/kumon/2008/1...

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Note added at 2 hrs (2009-08-02 08:54:12 GMT)
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vicinity does not sound right to me, being too general.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2009-08-02 09:21:09 GMT)
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http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6718051.html

Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:33
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 80

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Tony M: I'm afraid I don't entirely agree, Helen, and none of your refs. above are actually directly relevant to the specific context. Please see discussion area above
20 mins
  -> All of my refs speak of ways to reduce red eye./Have also added a patent which uses proximity, too.

agree  Fiorsam: See my discussion entry above. See additional reference above
3 hrs
  -> Thanks, Fiorsam - useful ref
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
à proximité moyenne / réduite
in the general / immediate vicinity


Explanation:
Just to confirm my support for jennifer's own suggestion, and to give me the opportunity of posting the refs. requested by Helen.

Here are just 2 out of the 438,000 potentially relevant Google hits i got from my first, quick search:


Image analysis and processing: 8th International Conference, ICIAP ...

by Carlo Braccini, Leila DeFloriani, Gianni Vernazza - 1995 - Computers - 757 pages

image intensity of the pixel (i, j) in the next image frame Z SE : search area ... even for a pixel in the vicinity of which there are few salient features. ...

books.google.com/books?isbn=3540602984...

* * * *

Method for recognizing objects in an image pixel plane - Patent ...

Another example where an automatic image analysis method is employed is in the .... In order to ascertain the homogeneity of a pixel point vicinity that is ...

www.freepatentsonline.com/6944342.html



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Note added at 6 hrs (2009-08-02 13:35:32 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

there is a subtle nuance of meaning here that absolutely requires in-depth knowledge of the subject area to understand, and facile examples from the Internet with fortuitous collocations are simply not authoritative enough in this kind of specialized field.

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Note added at 15 hrs (2009-08-02 22:07:53 GMT)
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Here is the text extract from my first ref. in the form of an image; I think it's worth psoting here, as it is so directly relevant to the concept of image recognition (albeit in a different field) — and despite the non-English sounding names of its authors, I have to say that I find the standard of the scientific EN used irreproachable.

http://www.apmarsden.my.proz.com/images/Book text.jpg

Tony M
France
Local time: 13:33
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 62
Grading comment
Thanks to everyone for their insight. I'm a technie, but I have to admit that both suggestions sound convincing. I chose this one mainly because it's in line with my original suspicion.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Helen Shiner: I don't doubt your knowledge, but these refs are both translations or written by non-native speakers with other mistakes in them, therefore not sufficiently convincing to me - I haven't seen anything that would make me move away from 'proximity'.
1 hr
  -> I'm satisfied with the use of the terminology in an international context; and the other 437,998 examples can't ALL be flawed...

agree  Nektaria Notaridou
10 days
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