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English translation: voice-related professionals


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French term or phrase:professionnels de la voix
English translation:voice-related professionals
Entered by: suezen
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11:51 Dec 16, 2007
French to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Psychology / métapsychologie de la phonation
French term or phrase: professionnels de la voix
This is a summary of an article on psychoanalysis. Here the authors, in order to study the psychological aspects of voice, and in particular voice loss (due to laryngectomy for example), propose a study which takes into account both "biological/scientific" data (phonation, linguistics and "témoignages de *** professionnels de la voix***" etc ) and present trends in metapsychology and intrapsychic experience.
I understand that 'professionnels de la voix" are orthophonists, for example, but, given the other summaries I have before me, would also be music teachers, singers, teachers in general.... people whose voice would be an essential part of their profession.
Any ideas for a nice comprehensive term? Many thanks in advance!
katsy
Local time: 20:53
voice-oriented professionals
Explanation:
might work as it does exist
Dysphonia has an occupational view nowadays. A shift in the voice-oriented professional's clinical approach has been required. New voice-oriented job categories have emerged and, as a result, the voice disorder in the professional enviroment has increased. The economic and productivity harm due to voice disorders are a preocupation. Dysphonia has multiple causes and its evaluation, ethiological conclusion and occupational reports aren't defined yet. AIM: In order to obtain a more accurate and comprehensive evaluation, a multidisciplinary protocol was elaborated to ensure proper medical scientific support. It consists of anamnesis, physical exam, laryngeal endoscopy, perceptive voice analysis and Voice Handicap Index application (VHI). STUDY DESIGN: Transversal historic cohort. MATERIAL E MÉTODO: In this preliminary study, the protocol was applied on 15 voice professionals with dysphonia. RESULTS: 13,3% with normal voice performance; 33,3% with functional dysphonia; 46% with organic dysphonia. Dysphonia was related to the voice-oriented job in 40% cases and it was ruled out in 46,6%. CONCLUSION: We concluded that the protocol is complete enough to help otolaryngologists evaluate this workers' category.

http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0034-72992004000500003&...



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the link above seems to differentiate between voice-oriented professionals, which I took to mean the people who deal with 'voice professionals', in other words, singers, TV presenters, teachers, etc. However, "professionals working in voice-related fields" also appears to be a possility

and Professionals in Voice Related Fields: Books: Peg Avery,Gene Gilbert by Peg Avery,Gene Gilbert.
www.amazon.com/Introductory-Handbook-Talents-Professionals-... - 12
To facilitate research and learning in voice-related fields. To provide education, learning and research in voice and communication through symposia, ...
www.british-voice-association.com/about.htm -

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Note added at 9 hrs (2007-12-16 21:36:35 GMT)
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sorry ... possibility!

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Note added at 1 day38 mins (2007-12-17 12:29:47 GMT)
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Not sure if I was very clear last night ... snowed under at the moment

what I meant to say was that it seemed that voice-oriented professionals appear to be those who work with and help people who use their voice in a more direct manner and those in voice-related professions or those working in voice-related fields could work as an alternative

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... and I've just reread your question.! In fact you wanted the term for the singers etc.!! So yes, voice professionals in this case and voice-related/oriented professionals for the clinicians ... I misunderstood as you posted it under Medical so I thought you were looking for the cover-all term for those who work with voice professionals too ... hence my waffle above. Sorry! I really shouldn't answer questions when I'm focusing on something else! :-))
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suezen
Local time: 20:53
Grading comment
Thanks very much suezen for all you references - I think I'll go with 'those in voice-related professions". Not as pretty as voice professionals but this latter does only seem to cover those who use their voice, not therapists/doctors etc.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +4voice professionals
Anne de Freyman
3 +3voice-oriented professionals
suezen
4speech therapists / phonologists / voice experts
Drmanu49


Discussion entries: 2





  

Answers


5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
voice professionals


Explanation:
Very simply...

Example sentence(s):
  • We are hoping to create a resource that can be used by all interested voice professionals aiding research and development within the field of voice teaching

    Reference: http://www.british-voice-association.com/about.htm
Anne de Freyman
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:53
Native speaker of: French

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  writeaway
24 mins

agree  Patrice
13 hrs

agree  veratek: I would elaborate the translation: "music teachers, singers, and other voice professionals" - much clearer for the reader than just "voice professionals"
21 hrs

agree  B D Finch: Possibly voice and speech?
21 hrs
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16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
speech therapists / phonologists / voice experts


Explanation:
Voice professional is too often a singer.
I think voice expert or phonologist corresponds to your description.

He will also comment on a number of questions that are often asked about the area: for instance, who are the 'voice experts' who judge the authenticity of ...
www.abdn.ac.uk/mediareleases/archive/2003/pr1169.hti - 10k -

Phonologists will find points of interest among the seven articles in Volume II. In their address to professional speech pathologists, R. Shelton and L. ...
links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0097-8507(198112)57%3A4%3C964%3ASALAIB%3E2.0.CO%3B2-X

Director, Music Cognition Lab. Research and publications in music cognition ... She is a laboratory phonologist whose research combines computational and ...
kodaly.music.northwestern.edu/people.html - 16k

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Note added at 9 hrs (2007-12-16 20:56:43 GMT)
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sorry I did not put the answer in the right place.

Drmanu49: 12:42pm Dec 16, 2007 : I guess the most specific term for your needs would have to be as unspecific as "voice expert" which includes all the categories whether professional (specialist) or not (teacher).

Drmanu49
Local time: 20:53
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 50
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks drmanu for this input. My problem is precisely in finding a solution which will include both those who help with voice production, as it were, and those who use their voice for professional reasons.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Melissa McMahon: not "phonologists" - this is a different sort of thing (phonology=branch of linguistics), as indicated in the passage which separates "phonation, linguistics" from the "témoignages de professionnels de la voix"
18 hrs
  -> Well, it is indirectly related since they study language sound patterns and that a language is spoken.
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
voice-oriented professionals


Explanation:
might work as it does exist
Dysphonia has an occupational view nowadays. A shift in the voice-oriented professional's clinical approach has been required. New voice-oriented job categories have emerged and, as a result, the voice disorder in the professional enviroment has increased. The economic and productivity harm due to voice disorders are a preocupation. Dysphonia has multiple causes and its evaluation, ethiological conclusion and occupational reports aren't defined yet. AIM: In order to obtain a more accurate and comprehensive evaluation, a multidisciplinary protocol was elaborated to ensure proper medical scientific support. It consists of anamnesis, physical exam, laryngeal endoscopy, perceptive voice analysis and Voice Handicap Index application (VHI). STUDY DESIGN: Transversal historic cohort. MATERIAL E MÉTODO: In this preliminary study, the protocol was applied on 15 voice professionals with dysphonia. RESULTS: 13,3% with normal voice performance; 33,3% with functional dysphonia; 46% with organic dysphonia. Dysphonia was related to the voice-oriented job in 40% cases and it was ruled out in 46,6%. CONCLUSION: We concluded that the protocol is complete enough to help otolaryngologists evaluate this workers' category.

http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0034-72992004000500003&...



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Note added at 9 hrs (2007-12-16 21:36:07 GMT)
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the link above seems to differentiate between voice-oriented professionals, which I took to mean the people who deal with 'voice professionals', in other words, singers, TV presenters, teachers, etc. However, "professionals working in voice-related fields" also appears to be a possility

and Professionals in Voice Related Fields: Books: Peg Avery,Gene Gilbert by Peg Avery,Gene Gilbert.
www.amazon.com/Introductory-Handbook-Talents-Professionals-... - 12
To facilitate research and learning in voice-related fields. To provide education, learning and research in voice and communication through symposia, ...
www.british-voice-association.com/about.htm -

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Note added at 9 hrs (2007-12-16 21:36:35 GMT)
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sorry ... possibility!

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Note added at 1 day38 mins (2007-12-17 12:29:47 GMT)
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Not sure if I was very clear last night ... snowed under at the moment

what I meant to say was that it seemed that voice-oriented professionals appear to be those who work with and help people who use their voice in a more direct manner and those in voice-related professions or those working in voice-related fields could work as an alternative

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Note added at 1 day52 mins (2007-12-17 12:44:04 GMT)
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... and I've just reread your question.! In fact you wanted the term for the singers etc.!! So yes, voice professionals in this case and voice-related/oriented professionals for the clinicians ... I misunderstood as you posted it under Medical so I thought you were looking for the cover-all term for those who work with voice professionals too ... hence my waffle above. Sorry! I really shouldn't answer questions when I'm focusing on something else! :-))

suezen
Local time: 20:53
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 32
Grading comment
Thanks very much suezen for all you references - I think I'll go with 'those in voice-related professions". Not as pretty as voice professionals but this latter does only seem to cover those who use their voice, not therapists/doctors etc.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi suezen! I see that your link also mentions 'voice professionals' - do you think then that 'voice professionals' is limited only to those who work with their voice? I have noted Dylan's remark which is promising!

Asker: No suezen, your first impression was right - I need this cover-all term, both singers, actors etc PLUS the clinicians.. I'm leaning very heavily towards voice-related... will leave question open a little longer


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Victoria Burns:
5 hrs
  -> thanks Victoria :-)

agree  Dylan Edwards: I think this is the best option in the circumstances. It sounds better than "voice-related professionals", though you could perhaps say "those in voice-related professions".
6 hrs
  -> Dylan, your last suggestion is excellent. Thanks!

agree  MDI-IDM
1 day21 mins
  -> thanks MDI!
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Changes made by editors
Jan 18, 2008 - Changes made by suezen:
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Dec 17, 2007 - Changes made by suezen:
FieldMedical => Social Sciences


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